my first trip to Costco . . .

[Tock]

I still don't like the idea of having to pay $45 for the privilege of
shopping in somebody's store, but a friend suggested that would be a good
place to go for stuff like paper towels and TP & other cleaning stuff.
Well, I went yesterday, and it was like Christmas . . .
Besides stuff like TP (I got the giant rolls) and other stuff, they had the
perfect table for the breakroom ($99), and they've got giant $$$ saving
packages of solid white canned tuna (the good stuff) and the almonds I've
been buying from Kroger in the little 3 oz bags for $1.39, I can now get 3
lb bags for $10 (better than half price). Got a bunch of latex gloves
(gotta have 'em for shaving customers) 300 for $10, while Home Depot charges
$6 for 100. Pretty cool.

Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash register
had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed that . . .

Pretty cool . . . I'm not gonna get an AE card -- I can adjust to paying
with cash, but I still don't like the idea of paying to shop in someone's
store . . .

--Tock

[diddy]

Post by Tock
I still don't like the idea of having to pay $45 for the privilege of
shopping in somebody's store, but a friend suggested that would be a
good place to go for stuff like paper towels and TP & other cleaning
stuff. Well, I went yesterday, and it was like Christmas . . .
Besides stuff like TP (I got the giant rolls) and other stuff, they
had the perfect table for the breakroom ($99), and they've got giant
$$$ saving packages of solid white canned tuna (the good stuff) and
the almonds I've been buying from Kroger in the little 3 oz bags for
$1.39, I can now get 3 lb bags for $10 (better than half price).
Got a bunch of latex gloves (gotta have 'em for shaving customers) 300
for $10, while Home Depot charges $6 for 100. Pretty cool.
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than
American Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at
the cash register had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM
machine fixed that . . .
Pretty cool . . . I'm not gonna get an AE card -- I can adjust to
paying with cash, but I still don't like the idea of paying to shop
in someone's store . . .
--Tock

No way, no how. Do you have an Aldi's close around?
I'm NOT going to buy any store memberships. EVER

[Tock]

Post by diddy
No way, no how. Do you have an Aldi's close around?
I'm NOT going to buy any store memberships. EVER

Never heard of Aldi.
What's that?
-Tock

[diddy]

Post by Tock

Post by diddy
No way, no how. Do you have an Aldi's close around?
I'm NOT going to buy any store memberships. EVER

Aldi's is a deep discount store. NO memberships. Mostly groceries, Not a
lot of selection, but you buy CHEAP. Cash or debit cards ONLY.

I can walk out of a grocery store, and have easily $100 worth of groceries
in a couple bags. Typically shopping at aldis has the same type of items at
under $25

Bring your own bags. You have to deposit $.25 for a shopping cart, which
you get back on it's return. So you need a quarter too.
You have to bag your own groceries.
it's a do it yourself affair.

I can buy many things at Aldi's cheaper than I can grow/can it myself.
I enjoy canning, so I do it anyway. But if i run short of something, no
worries, a trip to Aldi's fixes everything.
Milk is still expensive at $1.89 a gallon, but since Walmart has milk at
$3 something, it's still a bargain.

Post by Tock
Never heard of Aldi.
What's that?
-Tock

[Wooly]

What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Post by diddy
Milk is still expensive at $1.89 a gallon, but since Walmart has milk at
$3 something, it's still a bargain.

[Chloe]

Post by Wooly
What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Post by diddy
Milk is still expensive at $1.89 a gallon, but since Walmart has milk at
$3 something, it's still a bargain.

In my recent interstate move, I learned that state law has a lot to do with
regulating milk prices.

[s***@nospam.com]

Post by Chloe

Post by Wooly
What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Post by diddy
Milk is still expensive at $1.89 a gallon, but since Walmart has milk at
$3 something, it's still a bargain.

In my recent interstate move, I learned that state law has a lot to do with
regulating milk prices.

California prohibits retailers from selling milk below cost.

[diddy]

Post by s***@nospam.com

Post by Chloe

Post by Wooly
What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Post by diddy
Milk is still expensive at $1.89 a gallon, but since Walmart has
milk at $3 something, it's still a bargain.

In my recent interstate move, I learned that state law has a lot to
do with regulating milk prices.

California prohibits retailers from selling milk below cost.

Cost to the farmer? or to the store?
The store is making money. Farmers would lose money, if it weren't for
Government subsidies

[s***@nospam.com]

Post by diddy

Post by s***@nospam.com

Post by Chloe

Post by Wooly
What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Post by diddy
Milk is still expensive at $1.89 a gallon, but since Walmart has
milk at $3 something, it's still a bargain.

In my recent interstate move, I learned that state law has a lot to
do with regulating milk prices.

California prohibits retailers from selling milk below cost.

Cost to the farmer? or to the store?
The store is making money. Farmers would lose money, if it weren't for
Government subsidies

Cost to the retailer.

[diddy]

Post by s***@nospam.com

Post by diddy

Post by s***@nospam.com

Post by Chloe

Post by Wooly
What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Post by diddy
Milk is still expensive at $1.89 a gallon, but since Walmart has
milk at $3 something, it's still a bargain.

In my recent interstate move, I learned that state law has a lot to
do with regulating milk prices.

California prohibits retailers from selling milk below cost.

Cost to the farmer? or to the store?
The store is making money. Farmers would lose money, if it weren't for
Government subsidies

Cost to the retailer.

At $1.89 a gallon the store is NOT selling below cost to the retailer.

[s***@nospam.com]

Post by diddy

Post by s***@nospam.com

Post by diddy

Post by s***@nospam.com

Post by Chloe

Post by Wooly
What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Post by diddy
Milk is still expensive at $1.89 a gallon, but since Walmart has
milk at $3 something, it's still a bargain.

In my recent interstate move, I learned that state law has a lot to
do with regulating milk prices.

California prohibits retailers from selling milk below cost.

Cost to the farmer? or to the store?
The store is making money. Farmers would lose money, if it weren't for
Government subsidies

Cost to the retailer.

At $1.89 a gallon the store is NOT selling below cost to the retailer.

I never said they were. I said that in California the retailer can
not sell milk below their cost.

[Maren Purves]

Post by Chloe

Post by Wooly
What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Post by diddy
Milk is still expensive at $1.89 a gallon, but since Walmart has milk at
$3 something, it's still a bargain.

In my recent interstate move, I learned that state law has a lot to do with
regulating milk prices.

I find it a challenge to get milk below $4/gallon these days ...
($6-7 is normal).
Good thing we only use 1-2 gallons/week.

[dane]

Post by Maren Purves

Post by Chloe

Post by Wooly
What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Post by diddy
Milk is still expensive at $1.89 a gallon, but since Walmart has milk at
$3 something, it's still a bargain.

In my recent interstate move, I learned that state law has a lot to do with
regulating milk prices.

I find it a challenge to get milk below $4/gallon these days ...
($6-7 is normal).
Good thing we only use 1-2 gallons/week.

Where do you live ? In Pennsyvania the milk marketing board sets minimum
prices and most supermarkets sell at the minimum retail price. For Feb, 2005
it is $3.05 for a gallon of whole milk. I cross the Delaware to buy milk for
$1.11 a half gallon at Halo Farms Dairy in Lawrenceville, NJ.

[thunder]

Post by Maren Purves
I find it a challenge to get milk below $4/gallon these days ...
($6-7 is normal).
Good thing we only use 1-2 gallons/week.

On an average week it goes for about $2.50 here in Cincinnati, Ohio, but
with Kroger and Meijer battling over customers they have big sales or loss
leaders. This week milk is going for $1.47 a gallon at Meijer.

[diddy]

Post by thunder

Post by Maren Purves
I find it a challenge to get milk below $4/gallon these days ...
($6-7 is normal).
Good thing we only use 1-2 gallons/week.

On an average week it goes for about $2.50 here in Cincinnati, Ohio,
but with Kroger and Meijer battling over customers they have big sales
or loss leaders. This week milk is going for $1.47 a gallon at Meijer.

Have to send my husband to Meijer on his way home from work

[Dennis]

Post by Wooly
What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Oddly enough, the little quicky-mart/gas station down the road from us
has milk cheaper than the supermarkets ($2.75/gal vs. $3.25-4.00/gal).
Might be worth a look in your area.

Dennis (evil)
--
"What government gives, it must first take away."
- John S. Caldwell

[Buttercup]

Post by Dennis

Post by Wooly
What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Oddly enough, the little quicky-mart/gas station down the road from us
has milk cheaper than the supermarkets ($2.75/gal vs. $3.25-4.00/gal).
Might be worth a look in your area.

The cheapest place we can get milk around here (southern IN) is at CVS
drug store with the shopper's card. It's the only thing we ever buy at
CVS, so I don't care if they track my milk purchases. I go directly
across the street rom there for my presecriptions.

[Bill 2]

The dairy cartel in my area of Canada has recently increased the fixed price
of milk to $6.51 for 4 liters... so about $4.98USD /US gallon. That price is
fixed so it will never be any cheaper or any higher (until the next forced
price increase)

Post by Wooly
What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Post by diddy
Milk is still expensive at $1.89 a gallon, but since Walmart has milk at
$3 something, it's still a bargain.

[Madelina]

Post by Bill 2
The dairy cartel in my area of Canada has recently increased the fixed price
of milk to $6.51 for 4 liters... so about $4.98USD /US gallon. That price is
fixed so it will never be any cheaper or any higher (until the next forced
price increase)

Post by Wooly
What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Post by diddy
Milk is still expensive at $1.89 a gallon, but since Walmart has milk at
$3 something, it's still a bargain.

Time to buy a goat.

[diddy]

Post by Madelina

Post by Bill 2
The dairy cartel in my area of Canada has recently increased the
fixed price of milk to $6.51 for 4 liters... so about $4.98USD /US
gallon. That price is fixed so it will never be any cheaper or any
higher (until the next forced price increase)

Post by Wooly
What I wouldn't give for $1.89/gal milk. I'm paying anywhere from
$3.59-4.29 per gallon. We go through 6-8 gallons weekly...

Post by diddy
Milk is still expensive at $1.89 a gallon, but since Walmart has
milk at $3 something, it's still a bargain.

Time to buy a goat.

I used to have a cow. We raise our own grain. It's still cheaper to buy it
than to have your own cow.

[Serendipity]

Post by diddy
No way, no how. Do you have an Aldi's close around?
I'm NOT going to buy any store memberships. EVER

Your loss ;)

[r***@vt.edu]

Post by diddy

Post by Tock
I still don't like the idea of having to pay $45 for the privilege of
shopping in somebody's store, but a friend suggested that would be a
good place to go for stuff like paper towels and TP & other cleaning
stuff. Well, I went yesterday, and it was like Christmas . . .

No way, no how. Do you have an Aldi's close around?
I'm NOT going to buy any store memberships. EVER

No Costco near me, but my wife runs a small business and Sam's Club
is worth the membership fee. Things like paper bags and cleaning
supplies are much cheaper there than any retail store or even the
wholesale distributors who deliver. You do have to watch your prices
because occasionally you will find some stuff is just as cheap or
cheaper in a local grocery, but in general it's more than worth
the fee. For day-to-day personal shopping I would not bother
because even though I know it might be cheaper I don't need a 5 gallon
bucket-o-peanut-butter, or whatever, for my home use.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

[Serendipity]

Post by Tock
I still don't like the idea of having to pay $45 for the privilege of
shopping in somebody's store, but a friend suggested that would be a good
place to go for stuff like paper towels and TP & other cleaning stuff.
Well, I went yesterday, and it was like Christmas . . .
Besides stuff like TP (I got the giant rolls) and other stuff, they had the
perfect table for the breakroom ($99), and they've got giant $$$ saving
packages of solid white canned tuna (the good stuff) and the almonds I've
been buying from Kroger in the little 3 oz bags for $1.39, I can now get 3
lb bags for $10 (better than half price). Got a bunch of latex gloves
(gotta have 'em for shaving customers) 300 for $10, while Home Depot charges
$6 for 100. Pretty cool.
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash register
had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed that . . .
Pretty cool . . . I'm not gonna get an AE card -- I can adjust to paying
with cash, but I still don't like the idea of paying to shop in someone's
store . . .
--Tock

Hey Tock :) We have a membership at Sam's. One of our kids have a
membership at Costco's. So we kind of share. BTW, the way these
warehouse stores keep costs down is not only their design but because
the general public cannot shop there and they are geared to a certain
clientele.

Sam's: Anyway, with Sam's sometimes there are special hours set aside
just for certain members so we get to shop without the crowds. We also
get discounts. This in itself basically pays for our membership and the
rest of the savings is gravy. Check to see if Costco's does the same.
I'm sure they do. Take a business card with you so they have it on
record. When we first signed up at Sam's we had to be a member of a
credit union or a business owner. It does save a lot of money if you
shop it properly, know your prices, and especially if you are a small
business owner. As far as credit cards, I don't even know how Sam's
handles this issue. We pay by cash or cheque; no hassles for using a
cheque either! They have a cash machine so we can always get cash from
our account. We prefer shopping with cash only anyway. Sam's is now in
Canada but we prefer a US Sam's as it is closer. In general, clean
supplies are really cheap as are some food items. We saved a lot at
Christmas which more than paid for our membership.

Costco's: We've only been to a Canadian Costco's so it might differ
from what you have. It really is very similar to Sam's. I don't know
about the credit card issue here but the one we go to has a cash
machine. They have similar items.

[Steve]

Post by Serendipity
Hey Tock :) We have a membership at Sam's. One of our kids have a
membership at Costco's. So we kind of share. BTW, the way these
warehouse stores keep costs down is not only their design but because
the general public cannot shop there and they are geared to a certain
clientele.

I read somewhere that the design stuff is a myth - the industrial look
actually costs more than most retail stores. It's done that way
because it makes customers feel like they're getting a good deal due
to cost-cutting. You may be getting a good deal, but design is not
the reason.

Post by Serendipity
Sam's: Anyway, with Sam's sometimes there are special hours set aside
just for certain members so we get to shop without the crowds.

I much prefer Sam's because they're so unpopular locally. Everyone
apparently goes to Costco, so the Sam's store is relatively empty most
of the time. It's easy to pop in for a couple of quick items,
something I'd never try at Costco.

Post by Serendipity
It does save a lot of money if you
shop it properly, know your prices, and especially if you are a small
business owner.

True. The other thing a lot of folks don't realize is that they carry
lots of stuff you just won't find anywhere else, at least not locally.
Gourmet foods, etc. Sam's has a terrific huge chocolate bundt cake
that costs a mere 5 bucks. I always take it for potlucks - the trick
is to take it outta the plastic container and put it on a paper plate
so everyone thinks you made it from scratch. People are always
begging me for the recipe. I tell them it's a secret.

Post by Serendipity
As far as credit cards, I don't even know how Sam's
handles this issue.

Sam's takes only Discover or its own card (your membership card can
double as a credit card). They used to take Mastercard, pretty
annoying that they stopped.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Steve

Post by Serendipity
Hey Tock :) We have a membership at Sam's. One of our
kids have a membership at Costco's. So we kind of share.
BTW, the way these warehouse stores keep costs down is
not only their design but because the general public cannot
shop there and they are geared to a certain clientele.

I read somewhere that the design stuff is a myth - the
industrial look actually costs more than most retail stores.

Bet that was just the spew of some mindless journalist.

Cant see how the industrial look that involves a bare concrete
floor, all the goods on pallets where the customers get the
goods off the pallets, with the building in a low rent area,
with the operation having a restricted range of products
can be more expensive than most full supermarkets.

Post by Steve
It's done that way because it makes customers feel like
they're getting a good deal due to cost-cutting. You may
be getting a good deal, but design is not the reason.

Bet its one of the reasons.

[s***@nospam.com]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Steve

Post by Serendipity
Hey Tock :) We have a membership at Sam's. One of our
kids have a membership at Costco's. So we kind of share.
BTW, the way these warehouse stores keep costs down is
not only their design but because the general public cannot
shop there and they are geared to a certain clientele.

I read somewhere that the design stuff is a myth - the
industrial look actually costs more than most retail stores.

Bet that was just the spew of some mindless journalist.
Cant see how the industrial look that involves a bare concrete
floor, all the goods on pallets where the customers get the
goods off the pallets, with the building in a low rent area,
with the operation having a restricted range of products
can be more expensive than most full supermarkets.

The Costco stores in parts of the San Fernando Valley are anything
but low rent areas.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Steve
It's done that way because it makes customers feel like
they're getting a good deal due to cost-cutting. You may
be getting a good deal, but design is not the reason.

Bet its one of the reasons.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Steve

Post by Serendipity
Hey Tock :) We have a membership at Sam's. One of our
kids have a membership at Costco's. So we kind of share.
BTW, the way these warehouse stores keep costs down is
not only their design but because the general public cannot
shop there and they are geared to a certain clientele.

I read somewhere that the design stuff is a myth - the
industrial look actually costs more than most retail stores.

Bet that was just the spew of some mindless journalist.
Cant see how the industrial look that involves a bare concrete
floor, all the goods on pallets where the customers get the
goods off the pallets, with the building in a low rent area,
with the operation having a restricted range of products
can be more expensive than most full supermarkets.

The Costco stores in parts of the San Fernando Valley are anything but low
rent areas.

The other stuff still saves their costs.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Steve
It's done that way because it makes customers feel like
they're getting a good deal due to cost-cutting. You may
be getting a good deal, but design is not the reason.

Bet its one of the reasons.

[SoCalMike]

Post by Steve

Post by Serendipity
Hey Tock :) We have a membership at Sam's. One of our kids have a
membership at Costco's. So we kind of share. BTW, the way these
warehouse stores keep costs down is not only their design but because
the general public cannot shop there and they are geared to a certain
clientele.

I read somewhere that the design stuff is a myth - the industrial look
actually costs more than most retail stores. It's done that way
because it makes customers feel like they're getting a good deal due
to cost-cutting. You may be getting a good deal, but design is not
the reason.

it is, partially. a bare concrete floor is cheaper than the same floor
covered with tile. pallet racks are cheaper and more durable than store
shelving. its easier/cheaper to do layout changes in a warehouse than to
remodel a store.

and the main reason- its easier to drop a pallet and plug it into a hole
than to pay a stocker to break the pallet down, open all the boxes, and
stock it on a shelf.

Post by Steve

Post by Serendipity
Sam's: Anyway, with Sam's sometimes there are special hours set aside
just for certain members so we get to shop without the crowds.

I much prefer Sam's because they're so unpopular locally. Everyone
apparently goes to Costco, so the Sam's store is relatively empty most
of the time. It's easy to pop in for a couple of quick items,
something I'd never try at Costco.

depends. sams does seem to cater more to the business crowd, while
costco has gone more upscale. why? sams has the pricing power of
walmart/walmarts suppliers behind it, which is good and bad. sams
typically carries more low-end stuff, because they have established
relationships with suppliers like GE, sylvania, etc.

nothing wrong with that, of course. a 32" GE television should last as
long as a 32" sony.

Post by Steve

Post by Serendipity
It does save a lot of money if you
shop it properly, know your prices, and especially if you are a small
business owner.

True. The other thing a lot of folks don't realize is that they carry
lots of stuff you just won't find anywhere else, at least not locally.
Gourmet foods, etc. Sam's has a terrific huge chocolate bundt cake
that costs a mere 5 bucks. I always take it for potlucks - the trick
is to take it outta the plastic container and put it on a paper plate
so everyone thinks you made it from scratch. People are always
begging me for the recipe. I tell them it's a secret.

Post by Serendipity
As far as credit cards, I don't even know how Sam's
handles this issue.

Sam's takes only Discover or its own card (your membership card can
double as a credit card). They used to take Mastercard, pretty
annoying that they stopped.

i think they take whatever co-branded walmart card is available as well.

i shop both, and each has their advantages/disatvantages. kinda funny,
tho- there are a sams and costco back to back in torrance, CA. ive
shopped both. the sams only gets busy on the weekend after 6pm, when
costco closes. sams also is open more days, as well. walmart employees
apparently dont get to enjoy holidays ;)

[Bob Ward]

Post by Serendipity
Sam's: Anyway, with Sam's sometimes there are special hours set aside
just for certain members so we get to shop without the crowds. We also
get discounts. This in itself basically pays for our membership and the
rest of the savings is gravy. Check to see if Costco's does the same.
I'm sure they do. Take a business card with you so they have it on
record. When we first signed up at Sam's we had to be a member of a
credit union or a business owner. It does save a lot of money if you
shop it properly, know your prices, and especially if you are a small
business owner. As far as credit cards, I don't even know how Sam's
handles this issue. We pay by cash or cheque; no hassles for using a
cheque either! They have a cash machine so we can always get cash from
our account. We prefer shopping with cash only anyway. Sam's is now in
Canada but we prefer a US Sam's as it is closer. In general, clean
supplies are really cheap as are some food items. We saved a lot at
Christmas which more than paid for our membership.

If you are getting cash from the ATM at Sam's Club, you are paying ATM
fees. If you are getting CASH from your CREDIT cards at ATMs, you are
paying cash advance fees. If you pay with your debit card at Sam's
Club, you pay no ATM fees, no cash advance fees, and you can request
additional cash back at the register.

[Serendipity]

Post by Bob Ward

Post by Serendipity
Sam's: Anyway, with Sam's sometimes there are special hours set aside
just for certain members so we get to shop without the crowds. We also
get discounts. This in itself basically pays for our membership and the
rest of the savings is gravy. Check to see if Costco's does the same.
I'm sure they do. Take a business card with you so they have it on
record. When we first signed up at Sam's we had to be a member of a
credit union or a business owner. It does save a lot of money if you
shop it properly, know your prices, and especially if you are a small
business owner. As far as credit cards, I don't even know how Sam's
handles this issue. We pay by cash or cheque; no hassles for using a
cheque either! They have a cash machine so we can always get cash from
our account. We prefer shopping with cash only anyway. Sam's is now in
Canada but we prefer a US Sam's as it is closer. In general, clean
supplies are really cheap as are some food items. We saved a lot at
Christmas which more than paid for our membership.

If you are getting cash from the ATM at Sam's Club, you are paying ATM
fees. If you are getting CASH from your CREDIT cards at ATMs, you are
paying cash advance fees. If you pay with your debit card at Sam's
Club, you pay no ATM fees, no cash advance fees, and you can request
additional cash back at the register.

No fees for our cash at the cash machine, sorry. Otherwise, we would
simply take cash. Of course, on the US side they may have charges but
we certainly do no have any charges for withdrawls on our account. YMMV

[Dennis]

Post by Tock
I still don't like the idea of having to pay $45 for the privilege of
shopping in somebody's store, but a friend suggested that would be a good
place to go for stuff like paper towels and TP & other cleaning stuff.
Well, I went yesterday, and it was like Christmas . . .

<snippage>

Post by Tock
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash register
had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed that . . .
Pretty cool . . . I'm not gonna get an AE card -- I can adjust to paying
with cash, but I still don't like the idea of paying to shop in someone's
store . . .

Welcome to the cult. BTW, they also take checks and ATM/debit cards
right at the register (at least they do at the stores I use).

Dennis (evil)
--
The honest man is the one who realizes that he cannot
consume more, in his lifetime, than he produces.

[Mieko]

Post by Tock
I still don't like the idea of having to pay $45 for the privilege of
shopping in somebody's store, but a friend suggested that would be a good
place to go for stuff like paper towels and TP & other cleaning stuff.
Well, I went yesterday, and it was like Christmas . . .

Well I pay $100 for the executive membership and the amex card, but I get cash
back twice a year - once for the amex on everything I buy (over $250 this
year) and one for the executive membership on everything I buy at Costco
(don't remember how much this one was, but I'm pretty sure it was more than
$100.)

The executive memebership can even get you cheaper rates on things like credit
card processing if you're gonna need it.

[b***@cruller.invalid]

Post by Mieko
Well I pay $100 for the executive membership and the amex card, but I
get cash back twice a year - once for the amex on everything I buy
(over $250 this year) and one for the executive membership on
everything I buy at Costco (don't remember how much this one was, but
I'm pretty sure it was more than $100.)

That's what we do, too. Unfortunately, where we are moving there is no
Costco, so we'll probably sell our membership to one of our Costco-less
friends before we go. BTW, for all you people who would like to shop
there, but don't want to buy a membership, find someone you know who
shops there. Members are issued two cards and can sell you one for half
the membership fee without you having to sign anything. I know quite a
few people who've done this.

BTW--at least for the Exec. membership--Costco guarantees that you will
save more than the annual membership fee IIRC. If you don't, they
refund the excess fee or discount the subsequent years' membership,
customer's choice. I forget how they figure whether you've got your
money's worth, but when we got our card they explained it to me and it
seemed straightforward and reasonable. It was the first (and certainly
not the last) indication of their honesty in dealing with customers.

Even though we don't shop there often, we still easily recovered the
cost of membership and got money back both on our Costco/Amex purchases
and Amex purchases alone. All around a very good deal. Costco is one of
the many things I'm going to miss around here.

[Lauri]

Post by b***@cruller.invalid
shops there. Members are issued two cards and can sell you one for half
the membership fee without you having to sign anything. I know quite a
few people who've done this.

Our Costco membership cards have pictures on them, at least in
Washington. My local store does check the picture, so I'm not sure
how well that would work here. As I mentioned in a different post,
though, they don't care if you sign up and share membership with a
friend or relative.

Lauri in WA

I like my email spamless

[Seraph]

I share a membership w/ a former neighbor and we each have our own card with
our own photo.

Post by Lauri

Post by b***@cruller.invalid
shops there. Members are issued two cards and can sell you one for half
the membership fee without you having to sign anything. I know quite a
few people who've done this.

Our Costco membership cards have pictures on them, at least in
Washington. My local store does check the picture, so I'm not sure
how well that would work here. As I mentioned in a different post,
though, they don't care if you sign up and share membership with a
friend or relative.
Lauri in WA
I like my email spamless

[m***@privacy.net]

Post by Tock
and they've got giant $$$ saving
packages of solid white canned tuna (the good stuff)

Costco has a good deal on canned salmon as well

[Jessica V.]

Post by Tock
I still don't like the idea of having to pay $45 for the privilege of
shopping in somebody's store, but a friend suggested that would be a good
place to go for stuff like paper towels and TP & other cleaning stuff.
Well, I went yesterday, and it was like Christmas . . .
Besides stuff like TP (I got the giant rolls) and other stuff, they had the
perfect table for the breakroom ($99), and they've got giant $$$ saving
packages of solid white canned tuna (the good stuff) and the almonds I've
been buying from Kroger in the little 3 oz bags for $1.39, I can now get 3
lb bags for $10 (better than half price). Got a bunch of latex gloves
(gotta have 'em for shaving customers) 300 for $10, while Home Depot charges
$6 for 100. Pretty cool.
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash register
had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed that . . .
Pretty cool . . . I'm not gonna get an AE card -- I can adjust to paying
with cash, but I still don't like the idea of paying to shop in someone's
store . . .
--Tock

There isn't a Costco here, but there is a Sam's Club. My membership fee
is $35 a year. Well worth it IMO, as annual savings over the best
prices elsewhere usually amounts to several thousand dollars a year
between home and business purchases. I can't remember what it was but
there was a single item purchase last year where Sam's Club was $350
less than the lowest price I could find for whatever it was elsewhere.

Jessica

[Steve]

Post by Jessica V.
There isn't a Costco here, but there is a Sam's Club. My membership fee
is $35 a year. Well worth it IMO, as annual savings over the best
prices elsewhere usually amounts to several thousand dollars a year
between home and business purchases.

Plus, both Sam's and Costco make it very easy to return stuff, mostly
with no time limits.

[barbie gee]

Post by Tock
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash register
had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed that . . .

why can't you just swipe your debit card?
ours takes either AE, or any debit card at all...

[Tock]

Post by barbie gee

Post by Tock
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash
register had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed
that . . .

why can't you just swipe your debit card?
ours takes either AE, or any debit card at all...

What debit card?
-Tock

[Ariane Jenkins]

Post by Tock
I still don't like the idea of having to pay $45 for the privilege of
shopping in somebody's store, but a friend suggested that would be a good
place to go for stuff like paper towels and TP & other cleaning stuff.
Well, I went yesterday, and it was like Christmas . . .
Besides stuff like TP (I got the giant rolls) and other stuff, they had the
perfect table for the breakroom ($99), and they've got giant $$$ saving
packages of solid white canned tuna (the good stuff) and the almonds I've
been buying from Kroger in the little 3 oz bags for $1.39, I can now get 3
lb bags for $10 (better than half price). Got a bunch of latex gloves
(gotta have 'em for shaving customers) 300 for $10, while Home Depot charges
$6 for 100. Pretty cool.
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash register
had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed that . . .
Pretty cool . . . I'm not gonna get an AE card -- I can adjust to paying
with cash, but I still don't like the idea of paying to shop in someone's
store . . .

Yeah, a lot of people have problems with that. Me, I'm fine with it,
as long as I make the money back in savings, which we do. If we didn't, then
I could see being irked about the membership fee. It sounds like you've
already found some worthwhile savings, so I wouldn't sweat it. ;)

Ariane

[Isosceles]

Post by Tock
I still don't like the idea of having to pay $45 for the privilege of
shopping in somebody's store, but a friend suggested that would be a good
place to go for stuff like paper towels and TP & other cleaning stuff.
Well, I went yesterday, and it was like Christmas . . .
Besides stuff like TP (I got the giant rolls) and other stuff, they had the
perfect table for the breakroom ($99), and they've got giant $$$ saving
packages of solid white canned tuna (the good stuff) and the almonds I've
been buying from Kroger in the little 3 oz bags for $1.39, I can now get 3
lb bags for $10 (better than half price). Got a bunch of latex gloves
(gotta have 'em for shaving customers) 300 for $10, while Home Depot charges
$6 for 100. Pretty cool.
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash register
had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed that . . .
Pretty cool . . . I'm not gonna get an AE card -- I can adjust to paying
with cash, but I still don't like the idea of paying to shop in someone's
store . . .
--Tock

Just the yearly savings accrued in gasoline purchases alone justifies
the membership fee for me.

[Godzilla Pimp]

Post by Tock
I still don't like the idea of having to pay $45 for the privilege of
shopping in somebody's store,

It keeps costs down because it keeps out blacks, children and other
shoplifters. Besides, what kind of dumb nigger is going to try to shoplift a
canoe, trampoline or 60" TV?

BTW, I don't think I've ever seen a non-white at Sam's Club. It's about 99%
middle-aged and old white folks. The other 1% is young whites.

GP

[thunder]

Post by Tock
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash
register had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed
that . . .

They accept your ATM card. Just slide it through the machine and enter you
PIN.

[Bob Ward]

Post by thunder

Post by Tock
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash
register had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed
that . . .

They accept your ATM card. Just slide it through the machine and enter you
PIN.

Actually, they accept your VISA or Mastercard branded debit card,
which may or may not function as an ATM card. Some people prefer to
have an ATM card that functions only as an ATM card in an actual ATM
requiring a PIN, rather than at a point-of-sale terminal where the PIN
is not always required.

[The Real Bev]

Post by Tock
I still don't like the idea of having to pay $45 for the privilege of
shopping in somebody's store, but a friend suggested that would be a good
place to go for stuff like paper towels and TP & other cleaning stuff.
Well, I went yesterday, and it was like Christmas . . .
Besides stuff like TP (I got the giant rolls) and other stuff, they had the
perfect table for the breakroom ($99), and they've got giant $$$ saving
packages of solid white canned tuna (the good stuff) and the almonds I've
been buying from Kroger in the little 3 oz bags for $1.39, I can now get 3
lb bags for $10 (better than half price). Got a bunch of latex gloves
(gotta have 'em for shaving customers) 300 for $10, while Home Depot charges
$6 for 100. Pretty cool.

I love Costco. Some stuff is a bargain, some isn't, but it's certainly
worth the price. You can split the cost with a friend -- doesn't have
to be a live-in relative or anything -- who will get his own card. The
official member is the only one who gets the coupons, though.

Post by Tock
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash register
had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed that . . .

How much was the fee for getting your own money?

Post by Tock
Pretty cool . . . I'm not gonna get an AE card -- I can adjust to paying
with cash, but I still don't like the idea of paying to shop in someone's
store . . .

Get the card, you get a 1% rebate (some people who signed up previously
get 2%) on everything you buy there or anywhere else and increased
percentages on some other things. Other cards give you back 5% on
stuff from grocery stores, drugstores and gas stations. They REALLY
want to hook us on charging stuff that nobody would have thought of
charging a decade ago.

[Tock]

Post by The Real Bev

Post by Tock
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash register
had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed that . . .

How much was the fee for getting your own money?

75 cents. I pulled out $300, so that works out to .25%. Not good, and I
probably won't do it again (my credit union's ATM gives me my $$$ for free),
but I had a big basket full of bargains, and I really wanted it . . .

-Tock

[The Real Bev]

Post by Tock

Post by The Real Bev

Post by Tock
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash
register had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed
that . . .

How much was the fee for getting your own money?

75 cents. I pulled out $300, so that works out to .25%. Not good, and I
probably won't do it again (my credit union's ATM gives me my $$$ for free),
but I had a big basket full of bargains, and I really wanted it . . .

Cheap lesson, then. It's the principle of the thing. ("When people
talk about the principle of the thing, they really mean money.")

[Dennis P. Harris]

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:31:21 GMT in misc.consumers.frugal-living,

Post by Tock
75 cents. I pulled out $300, so that works out to .25%. Not good, and I
probably won't do it again (my credit union's ATM gives me my $$$ for free),
but I had a big basket full of bargains, and I really wanted it . . .

and you could have used your ATM card right there at checkout and
saved the fee!

[Tock]

Post by Dennis P. Harris
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:31:21 GMT in misc.consumers.frugal-living,

Post by Tock
75 cents. I pulled out $300, so that works out to .25%. Not good, and I
probably won't do it again (my credit union's ATM gives me my $$$ for free),
but I had a big basket full of bargains, and I really wanted it . . .

and you could have used your ATM card right there at checkout and
saved the fee!

Huh . . . I didn't know that . . .
Well, ya learns something new every day . . .
-Tock

[Bob Ward]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:42:59 -0800, The Real Bev

Post by The Real Bev
I love Costco. Some stuff is a bargain, some isn't, but it's certainly
worth the price. You can split the cost with a friend -- doesn't have
to be a live-in relative or anything -- who will get his own card. The
official member is the only one who gets the coupons, though.

The "official member" is the only one with a moneyback guarantee on
the membership fees, too - the freeloader can't cash in half the
membership.

[Dennis P. Harris]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:29:46 GMT in misc.consumers.frugal-living,

Post by Tock
Pretty cool . . . I'm not gonna get an AE card -- I can adjust to paying
with cash, but I still don't like the idea of paying to shop in someone's
store . . .

You save that membership fee pretty quickly if you buy much. If
you're a business member, you can get a Costco credit card, and
you pay Costco when the statement arrives (at least my employer
does!). Several company employees have cards and we get a single
statement. It does help that our local Costco is only a block
away from our office...

A lot of our local businesses shop there for cleaning supplies,
food service supplies, batteries, basic office supplies. Local
small restaurants buy meat & veg there too.

I make my membership fee back the first time I stock up the
cheese box in my fridge --- they have a reasonable selection and
fantastic prices. As a single person, their meat packages are
too huge unless I'm throwing a party, but I go there for things
like basic olive oil and canned tomatoes.

For a barber shop, you can save a lot on paper products there.

Oh, and a suggestion: Any real barber shop needs a bunch of
magazine subscriptions. My local shop has the New Yorker,
Harper's, and the Wall St. Journal, as well as the local
newspaper. What magazines/papers do you have in your shop?

[Tock]

Post by Dennis P. Harris
Oh, and a suggestion: Any real barber shop needs a bunch of
magazine subscriptions. My local shop has the New Yorker,
Harper's, and the Wall St. Journal, as well as the local
newspaper. What magazines/papers do you have in your shop?

I haven't subscribed to any yet. When I do, I'll probably get a sports
mag, one for cooking, dogs, gay issues, Consumer Reports, Writer's Digest,
national news, NASCAR, travel, bicycling, something for UFO's and
paranormal, the Weekly World News, and the local daily newspaper.
Well, maybe not all those; depends on how much they'll all cost. I don't
intend to open up a library . . .
I understand that some publishers send any business with a waiting room free
subscriptions, so that should help fill up my magazine rack (which I bought
for $5 at a going-out-of-business sale). Some publishers keep sending out
magazines even after the subscription expires. Ya, my sub for Electronic
Musician expired three addresses ago, and they keep hunting me down and
sending the stuff.

That's one of the things I'll figure out later . . . until then, since
business will be slow anyway, the daily newspaper will suffice.

Turns out I needed to get a 6 foot wide (7 feet tall) bookcase (long story),
so I'll be able to do a book exchange for the customers. Even if no one
wants to exchange books, it'll still look good.
Had the antique dealer deliver my shoe shine stand today, and he was
impressed with what I've done with the place so far. Hmm . . . for the
price of what a franchised hair joint (Supercuts/Procuts) would have charged
me for a shop, I've got my own shop that's light years better, if I do say
so myself . . .

-Tock

[C. Massey]

Post by Tock

Post by Dennis P. Harris
Oh, and a suggestion: Any real barber shop needs a bunch of
magazine subscriptions. My local shop has the New Yorker,
Harper's, and the Wall St. Journal, as well as the local
newspaper. What magazines/papers do you have in your shop?

I haven't subscribed to any yet. When I do, I'll probably get a sports
mag, one for cooking, dogs, gay issues, Consumer Reports, Writer's Digest,
national news, NASCAR, travel, bicycling, something for UFO's and
paranormal, the Weekly World News, and the local daily newspaper.
Well, maybe not all those; depends on how much they'll all cost. I don't
intend to open up a library . . .

<snip>

Well, if you get the NASCAR magazines in, I will be there for a haircut
monthly, even though you are making me drive from SW Ft. Worth!

Where did you say the shop is again?


Chuck

[diddy]

Post by Tock

Post by Dennis P. Harris
Oh, and a suggestion: Any real barber shop needs a bunch of
magazine subscriptions. My local shop has the New Yorker,
Harper's, and the Wall St. Journal, as well as the local
newspaper. What magazines/papers do you have in your shop?

I haven't subscribed to any yet. When I do, I'll probably get a
sports mag, one for cooking, dogs, gay issues, Consumer Reports,
Writer's Digest, national news, NASCAR, travel, bicycling, something
for UFO's and paranormal, the Weekly World News, and the local daily
newspaper. Well, maybe not all those; depends on how much they'll all
cost. I don't intend to open up a library . . .

Do you do women? I'll read the ones on dogs, nascar, reader's digest and
cooking

[Tock]

Post by diddy

Post by Tock

Post by Dennis P. Harris
Oh, and a suggestion: Any real barber shop needs a bunch of
magazine subscriptions. My local shop has the New Yorker,
Harper's, and the Wall St. Journal, as well as the local
newspaper. What magazines/papers do you have in your shop?

I haven't subscribed to any yet. When I do, I'll probably get a
sports mag, one for cooking, dogs, gay issues, Consumer Reports,
Writer's Digest, national news, NASCAR, travel, bicycling, something
for UFO's and paranormal, the Weekly World News, and the local daily
newspaper. Well, maybe not all those; depends on how much they'll all
cost. I don't intend to open up a library . . .

Do you do women? I'll read the ones on dogs, nascar, reader's digest and
cooking

There's a few women's cuts I can do; layer cuts, blunt cuts, and something
called a 180. That's a cut that leaves your hair looking like we held you
upside down and ran a weed-wacker across everything that hung down . . .
but, I can get that same effect while you relax in my unfrugal $1800 barber
chair. When it's done, your hair is left in gradually increasing layers
from the top down, and looks pretty good, lets ya have what looks like long
hair without it actually being long. Recommended for hot weather. I'll
have a few manikins done so you can see what it looks like.

Bring along a wad of cash, I'll have a table for poker and dominos in the
back . . .

-Tock

[C. Massey]

"Tock" <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:uSqPd.46598$***@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...

<snip>

Post by Tock
Bring along a wad of cash, I'll have a table for poker and dominos in the
back . . .

OK... it's gonna take me an hour or longer to get there, but you keep making
it more enticing!

[Tock]

Post by C. Massey
<snip>

Post by Tock
Bring along a wad of cash, I'll have a table for poker and dominos in the
back . . .

OK... it's gonna take me an hour or longer to get there, but you keep making
it more enticing!

" . . . said the fly to the spider . . ."
-Tock (lol)

[dogsnus]

Post by Tock
There's a few women's cuts I can do; layer cuts, blunt cuts, and
something called a 180. That's a cut that leaves your hair looking
like we held you upside down and ran a weed-wacker across everything
that hung down . . . but, I can get that same effect while you relax in
my unfrugal $1800 barber chair. When it's done, your hair is left in
gradually increasing layers from the top down, and looks pretty good,
lets ya have what looks like long hair without it actually being long.
Recommended for hot weather. I'll have a few manikins done so you can
see what it looks like.

We used to call this cut a "Shag" back in the 70's I think.
I tried to find a picture of one but my patience with google ran out.

Stupid blogs!

Oh funny;this site came up and it's chock full of the things of that era.
http://www.robinsweb.com/70s/the_era.html

I suddenly feel very old.

Terri

[Tock]

Post by C. Massey
Well, if you get the NASCAR magazines in, I will be there for a haircut
monthly, even though you are making me drive from SW Ft. Worth!
Where did you say the shop is again?
Chuck

It's in Richardson, on Coit between Belt Line & Arapahoe, right under the
big bank tower. Can't miss it.
I'll give a holler when the NASCAR mags come in . . .
-Tock

[suzn]

Post by Tock
Only thing is . . . they don't take any credit cards other than American
Express, which they didn't tell me until after the lady at the cash
register had rung everything up. But a trip to the ATM machine fixed
that . . .
Pretty cool . . . I'm not gonna get an AE card -- I can adjust to paying
with cash, but I still don't like the idea of paying to shop in someone's
store . . .

They take debit cards Tock, if you have one.

[imascot]

Post by Tock
Pretty cool . . . I'm not gonna get an AE card -- I can adjust to paying
with cash, but I still don't like the idea of paying to shop in someone's
store . . .
--Tock

Tock, the AE/Costco card has a cashback feature. We use ours for
everything we can, and it all adds up. This month we're getting the
2004 rebate of around $200.00 (It more than covers the Costco annual
fee.)

J.

[SoCalMike]

Post by imascot

Post by Tock
Pretty cool . . . I'm not gonna get an AE card -- I can adjust to paying
with cash, but I still don't like the idea of paying to shop in someone's
store . . .
--Tock

Tock, the AE/Costco card has a cashback feature. We use ours for
everything we can, and it all adds up. This month we're getting the
2004 rebate of around $200.00 (It more than covers the Costco annual
fee.)
J.

im getting... $14.57

which is $14.57 more than id have gotten paying via ATM. the AMEX is
paid in full each month thru online banking, so its free money.

[The Real Bev]

Post by imascot

Post by Tock
Pretty cool . . . I'm not gonna get an AE card -- I can adjust to paying
with cash, but I still don't like the idea of paying to shop in someone's
store . . .

Tock, the AE/Costco card has a cashback feature. We use ours for
everything we can, and it all adds up. This month we're getting the
2004 rebate of around $200.00 (It more than covers the Costco annual
fee.)

AND the Costco AE card has no fee. Nothing to lose and lots to gain.

[Steve]

Post by The Real Bev

Post by imascot
Tock, the AE/Costco card has a cashback feature. We use ours for
everything we can, and it all adds up. This month we're getting the
2004 rebate of around $200.00 (It more than covers the Costco annual
fee.)

AND the Costco AE card has no fee. Nothing to lose and lots to gain.

Plus, the AE can be used as your membership card, no need to carry
both. Which is sorta interesting, since it's not a picture ID.

[Tock]

Post by Steve

Post by The Real Bev

Post by imascot
Tock, the AE/Costco card has a cashback feature. We use ours for
everything we can, and it all adds up. This month we're getting the
2004 rebate of around $200.00 (It more than covers the Costco annual
fee.)

AND the Costco AE card has no fee. Nothing to lose and lots to gain.

Plus, the AE can be used as your membership card, no need to carry
both. Which is sorta interesting, since it's not a picture ID.

Ok, twist my arm, y'all . . . I'll do it, I'll do it . . .
-Tock

[SoCalMike]

Post by Tock
Ok, twist my arm, y'all . . . I'll do it, I'll do it . . .

itd be worth checking sams out too before you decide.

[Dennis P. Harris]

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:09:52 -0800 in
misc.consumers.frugal-living, SoCalMike

Post by SoCalMike
itd be worth checking sams out too before you decide.

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work
illegal off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor
violations. unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a
living wage.

[George Grapman]

Post by Dennis P. Harris
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:09:52 -0800 in
misc.consumers.frugal-living, SoCalMike

Post by SoCalMike
itd be worth checking sams out too before you decide.

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work
illegal off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor
violations. unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a
living wage.

In the Bay Area Costco manages to pay union wages and still provide
good prices.

[Rod Speed]

Post by George Grapman

Post by Dennis P. Harris
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:09:52 -0800 in
misc.consumers.frugal-living, SoCalMike

Post by SoCalMike
itd be worth checking sams out too before you decide.

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work
illegal off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor
violations. unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a
living wage.

In the Bay Area Costco manages to pay union wages

More fool them.

Post by George Grapman
and still provide good prices.

They'd obviously have even better prices if they didnt pay union wages.

[SoCalMike]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

Post by Dennis P. Harris
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:09:52 -0800 in
misc.consumers.frugal-living, SoCalMike

Post by SoCalMike
itd be worth checking sams out too before you decide.

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work
illegal off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor
violations. unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a
living wage.

In the Bay Area Costco manages to pay union wages

More fool them.

Post by George Grapman
and still provide good prices.

They'd obviously have even better prices if they didnt pay union wages.

they might even have better prices if they paid minimum wage. where do
you draw the line? employees that are paid fast-food wages tend to not
give a shit as much as someone who is making mortgage payments from
their wages.

the costco union store employees make slightly less per hour than the
non-union costco store employees. in return, costco contributes to the
teamster pension fund. it all evens out.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

Post by Dennis P. Harris
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:09:52 -0800 in
misc.consumers.frugal-living, SoCalMike

Post by SoCalMike
itd be worth checking sams out too before you decide.

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work
illegal off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor
violations. unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a
living wage.

In the Bay Area Costco manages to pay union wages

More fool them.

Post by George Grapman
and still provide good prices.

They'd obviously have even better prices if they didnt pay union wages.

they might even have better prices if they paid minimum wage. where do you
draw the line?

At what is legal and still produces enough
adequate monkeys that perform adequately.

employees that are paid fast-food wages tend to not give a shit as much as
someone who is making mortgage payments from their wages.

Those that dont give a shit get the bums rush, right out the door.

the costco union store employees make slightly less per hour than the
non-union costco store employees. in return, costco contributes to the
teamster pension fund.

More fool them. And you presumably
meant the opposite of what you said.

it all evens out.

Anyone with a clue doesnt get into bed with union goons.

[George Grapman]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

Post by Dennis P. Harris
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:09:52 -0800 in
misc.consumers.frugal-living, SoCalMike

Post by SoCalMike
itd be worth checking sams out too before you decide.

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work
illegal off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor
violations. unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a
living wage.

In the Bay Area Costco manages to pay union wages

More fool them.

Post by George Grapman
and still provide good prices.

They'd obviously have even better prices if they didnt pay union wages.

they might even have better prices if they paid minimum wage. where do you
draw the line?

At what is legal and still produces enough
adequate monkeys that perform adequately.

employees that are paid fast-food wages tend to not give a shit as much as
someone who is making mortgage payments from their wages.

Those that dont give a shit get the bums rush, right out the door.

Which means a higher possibility that the employees you deal with
are inexperienced and untrained. Even you should understand that.

Post by Rod Speed

the costco union store employees make slightly less per hour than the
non-union costco store employees. in return, costco contributes to the
teamster pension fund.

More fool them. And you presumably
meant the opposite of what you said.

I never said the union employees make less money. Why would I say
that when all the Bay Area employees are union members?

Post by Rod Speed

it all evens out.

Anyone with a clue doesnt get into bed with union goons.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work illegal off
the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor violations.

Neither does walmart/sams. Those were always union lies.

Fools like you were stupid enough to buy union lies.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a living wage.

In the Bay Area Costco manages to pay union wages

More fool them.

Post by George Grapman
and still provide good prices.

They'd obviously have even better prices if they didnt pay union wages.

they might even have better prices if they paid minimum wage. where do you
draw the line?

At what is legal and still produces enough
adequate monkeys that perform adequately.

employees that are paid fast-food wages tend to not give a shit as much as
someone who is making mortgage payments from their wages.

Those that dont give a shit get the bums rush, right out the door.

Which means a higher possibility that the employees you deal with are
inexperienced and untrained.

Thats life. Thats the only viable way to deal with complete duds like that.

McDs etc shows that its completely routine for any operation with a clue.

Even you should understand that.

Post by Rod Speed

the costco union store employees make slightly less per hour than the
non-union costco store employees. in return, costco contributes to the
teamster pension fund.

More fool them. And you presumably
meant the opposite of what you said.

I never said the union employees make less money.

I never said you did.

Why would I say that when all the Bay Area employees are union members?

Only because the retail operations got fucked over on that by the unions.

More fool them.

Post by Rod Speed

it all evens out.

Anyone with a clue doesnt get into bed with union goons.

And fools like you get stuck with the higher costs that that produces.

[George Grapman]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work illegal off
the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor violations.

Neither does walmart/sams. Those were always union lies.
Fools like you were stupid enough to buy union lies.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a living wage.

In the Bay Area Costco manages to pay union wages

More fool them.

Post by George Grapman
and still provide good prices.

They'd obviously have even better prices if they didnt pay union wages.

they might even have better prices if they paid minimum wage. where do you
draw the line?

At what is legal and still produces enough
adequate monkeys that perform adequately.

employees that are paid fast-food wages tend to not give a shit as much as
someone who is making mortgage payments from their wages.

Those that dont give a shit get the bums rush, right out the door.

Which means a higher possibility that the employees you deal with are
inexperienced and untrained.

Thats life. Thats the only viable way to deal with complete duds like that.
McDs etc shows that its completely routine for any operation with a clue.
Even you should understand that.

Post by Rod Speed

the costco union store employees make slightly less per hour than the
non-union costco store employees. in return, costco contributes to the
teamster pension fund.

More fool them. And you presumably
meant the opposite of what you said.

I never said the union employees make less money.

I never said you did.

Why would I say that when all the Bay Area employees are union members?

Only because the retail operations got fucked over on that by the unions.
More fool them.

Can't explain why you put words in my mouth, can you?

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

it all evens out.

Here is how it evens out. Companies pay low wages. Prices may or may
not be lower (when SF raised the minimum wage the fast food places
neither raised prices or fired people). Low wage employees need food
stamps or heath care from the government thereby raising our taxes.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed
Anyone with a clue doesnt get into bed with union goons.

And fools like you get stuck with the higher costs that that produces.

Interesting. We have a chain here called In'out Burger. They start
workers at $9.50 an hour and have edible burgers and fries, nothing
frozen, cooked to order for the same price as a fast food combo meal.
How do they do this? Might be because they are company owned and
therefore are not paying off a franchise fee, passing on a percent of
the gross to the parent company and are not doing massive advertising
campaigns.
On Powell St., right by the fast food places, we have Tads. For about
$5 they give you a real cheeseburger grilled to order, a baked potato
and a salad. It is served on real plates with real silverware and you
sit on real chairs. Tads is a union restaurant.

[Rod Speed]

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work illegal off
the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor violations.

Neither does walmart/sams. Those were always union lies.
Fools like you were stupid enough to buy union lies.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a living wage.

In the Bay Area Costco manages to pay union wages

More fool them.

Post by George Grapman
and still provide good prices.

They'd obviously have even better prices if they didnt pay union wages.

they might even have better prices if they paid minimum wage. where do you
draw the line?

At what is legal and still produces enough
adequate monkeys that perform adequately.

employees that are paid fast-food wages tend to not give a shit as much as
someone who is making mortgage payments from their wages.

Those that dont give a shit get the bums rush, right out the door.

Which means a higher possibility that the employees you deal with are
inexperienced and untrained.

Thats life. Thats the only viable way to deal with complete duds like that.
McDs etc shows that its completely routine for any operation with a clue.
Even you should understand that.

Post by Rod Speed

the costco union store employees make slightly less per hour than the
non-union costco store employees. in return, costco contributes to the
teamster pension fund.

More fool them. And you presumably
meant the opposite of what you said.

I never said the union employees make less money.

I never said you did.

Why would I say that when all the Bay Area employees are union members?

Only because the retail operations got fucked over on that by the unions.
More fool them.

Can't explain why you put words in my mouth, can you?

Lying. Again.

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

it all evens out.

Here is how it evens out.

Nope.

Post by George Grapman
Companies pay low wages.

And manage to do that for years and years, regardless
of what stupid union goons and their acolytes claim.

Post by George Grapman
Prices may or may not be lower (when SF raised the minimum wage the fast food
places neither raised prices or fired people).

What matters on that is whether they were
paying less than that before that change, stupid.

And that aint the union wages being discussed anyway.

Post by George Grapman
Low wage employees need food stamps

Bullshit the burger flipping monkeys do.

Post by George Grapman
or heath care from the government

Bullshit the burger flipping monkeys do.

Post by George Grapman
thereby raising our taxes.

How odd that the taxes in states that havent increased the
federal minimum wage arent always the highest tax states.

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed
Anyone with a clue doesnt get into bed with union goons.

And fools like you get stuck with the higher costs that that produces.

Interesting. We have a chain here called In'out Burger. They start workers at
$9.50 an hour and have edible burgers and fries, nothing frozen, cooked to
order for the same price as a fast food combo meal.
How do they do this? Might be because they are company owned and therefore are
not paying off a franchise fee, passing on a percent of the gross to the
parent company and are not doing massive advertising campaigns.

And they could obviously do the same stuff without paying union wages.

Post by George Grapman
On Powell St., right by the fast food places, we have Tads. For about $5 they
give you a real cheeseburger grilled to order, a baked potato and a salad. It
is served on real plates with real silverware and you sit on real chairs. Tads
is a union restaurant.

Whoopy do. Is this where we're all sposed to swoon or sumfin ?

Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed
that hardly any of the fast food operations are stupid
enough to get into bed with any damned union.

[George Grapman]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work illegal off
the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor violations.

Neither does walmart/sams. Those were always union lies.
Fools like you were stupid enough to buy union lies.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a living wage.

In the Bay Area Costco manages to pay union wages

More fool them.

Post by George Grapman
and still provide good prices.

They'd obviously have even better prices if they didnt pay union wages.

they might even have better prices if they paid minimum wage. where do you
draw the line?

At what is legal and still produces enough
adequate monkeys that perform adequately.

employees that are paid fast-food wages tend to not give a shit as much as
someone who is making mortgage payments from their wages.

Those that dont give a shit get the bums rush, right out the door.

Which means a higher possibility that the employees you deal with are
inexperienced and untrained.

Thats life. Thats the only viable way to deal with complete duds like that.
McDs etc shows that its completely routine for any operation with a clue.
Even you should understand that.

Post by Rod Speed

the costco union store employees make slightly less per hour than the
non-union costco store employees. in return, costco contributes to the
teamster pension fund.

More fool them. And you presumably
meant the opposite of what you said.

I never said the union employees make less money.

I never said you did.

Why would I say that when all the Bay Area employees are union members?

Only because the retail operations got fucked over on that by the unions.
More fool them.

Can't explain why you put words in my mouth, can you?

Lying. Again.

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

it all evens out.

Here is how it evens out.

Nope.

Post by George Grapman
Companies pay low wages.

And manage to do that for years and years, regardless
of what stupid union goons and their acolytes claim.

Post by George Grapman
Prices may or may not be lower (when SF raised the minimum wage the fast food
places neither raised prices or fired people).

What matters on that is whether they were
paying less than that before that change, stupid.
And that aint the union wages being discussed anyway.

Post by George Grapman
Low wage employees need food stamps

Bullshit the burger flipping monkeys do.

Post by George Grapman
or heath care from the government

Bullshit the burger flipping monkeys do.

The burder flippers are the low paid people. Funny how unemployed Rod
demeans those who work.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman
thereby raising our taxes.

How odd that the taxes in states that havent increased the
federal minimum wage arent always the highest tax states.

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed
Anyone with a clue doesnt get into bed with union goons.

And fools like you get stuck with the higher costs that that produces.

Interesting. We have a chain here called In'out Burger. They start workers at
$9.50 an hour and have edible burgers and fries, nothing frozen, cooked to
order for the same price as a fast food combo meal.
How do they do this? Might be because they are company owned and therefore are
not paying off a franchise fee, passing on a percent of the gross to the
parent company and are not doing massive advertising campaigns.

And they could obviously do the same stuff without paying union wages.

The point, which went over your head, is that they pay a living wage
despite paying a livable wage.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman
On Powell St., right by the fast food places, we have Tads. For about $5 they
give you a real cheeseburger grilled to order, a baked potato and a salad. It
is served on real plates with real silverware and you sit on real chairs. Tads
is a union restaurant.

Whoopy do. Is this where we're all sposed to swoon or sumfin ?
Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed
that hardly any of the fast food operations are stupid
enough to get into bed with any damned union.

As usual, Rod can not address a single point from any post/

[b***@charter.net]

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed
Bullshit the burger flipping monkeys do.

The burder flippers are the low paid people. Funny how unemployed Rod
demeans those who work.

Funny how Rod claimed the allegations against Wal-Mart were "union
lies"
but when faced with the evidence they were in fact true, he simply
shuts his piehole and crawls back under his rock. Bitch slapped again.

[George Grapman]

Post by b***@charter.net

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed
Bullshit the burger flipping monkeys do.

The burder flippers are the low paid people. Funny how unemployed

Rod

Post by George Grapman
demeans those who work.

Funny how Rod claimed the allegations against Wal-Mart were "union
lies"
but when faced with the evidence they were in fact true, he simply
shuts his piehole and crawls back under his rock. Bitch slapped again.

When faced with facts Rod will either ignore them, claim they are
irrelevant to his fantasies or show his debating prowess by saying
"bullshit" or some other fecal related gem.

[Rod Speed]

Some fool claiming to be
George Crapchild <***@pacbell.net>
desperately attempted to lie its way
out of its predicament in message news:l97Qd.33$***@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
and fooled absolutely no one at all.

No surprise that it needs a union.

It wouldnt even manage that pathetic excuse
for a 'job' as sales fuckwit without one.

[George Grapman]

Post by Rod Speed
Some fool claiming to be
desperately attempted to lie its way
and fooled absolutely no one at all.
No surprise that it needs a union.
It wouldnt even manage that pathetic excuse
for a 'job' as sales fuckwit without one.

And your job is.......?

[Rod Speed]

Some fool claiming to be
George Crapchild <***@pacbell.net>
desperately attempted to lie its way
out of its predicament in message news:YS7Qd.48$***@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
and fooled absolutely no one at all.

No surprise that it needs a union.

It wouldnt even manage that pathetic excuse
for a 'job' as sales fuckwit without one.

[Rod Speed]

Post by b***@charter.net
Funny how Rod claimed the allegations against Wal-Mart were
"union lies" but when faced with the evidence they were in fact true,

So stupid that it cant even work out the difference between
WERE and ARE. It was the ARE that was claimed, fuckwit.

[George Grapman]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by b***@charter.net
Funny how Rod claimed the allegations against Wal-Mart were
"union lies" but when faced with the evidence they were in fact true,

So stupid that it cant even work out the difference between
WERE and ARE. It was the ARE that was claimed, fuckwit.

As opposed to your 2nd grade grammar , spelling and punctuation. It
must hurt knowing that even the people you refer to as monkeys are more
productive than you are.

[Rod Speed]

Some fool claiming to be
George Crapchild <***@pacbell.net>
desperately attempted to lie its way
out of its predicament in message news:xS7Qd.47$***@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
and fooled absolutely no one at all.

No surprise that it needs a union.

It wouldnt even manage that pathetic excuse
for a 'job' as sales fuckwit without one.

[Rod Speed]

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by SoCalMike

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work illegal
off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor violations.

Neither does walmart/sams. Those were always union lies.
Fools like you were stupid enough to buy union lies.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by SoCalMike

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a living wage.

In the Bay Area Costco manages to pay union wages

More fool them.

Post by George Grapman
and still provide good prices.

They'd obviously have even better prices if they didnt pay union wages.

they might even have better prices if they paid minimum wage. where do
you draw the line?

At what is legal and still produces enough
adequate monkeys that perform adequately.

Post by SoCalMike
employees that are paid fast-food wages tend to not give a shit as much
as someone who is making mortgage payments from their wages.

Those that dont give a shit get the bums rush, right out the door.

Which means a higher possibility that the employees you deal with are
inexperienced and untrained.

Thats life. Thats the only viable way to deal with complete duds like that.
McDs etc shows that its completely routine for any operation with a clue.
Even you should understand that.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by SoCalMike
the costco union store employees make slightly less per hour than the
non-union costco store employees. in return, costco contributes to the
teamster pension fund.

More fool them. And you presumably
meant the opposite of what you said.

I never said the union employees make less money.

I never said you did.

Why would I say that when all the Bay Area employees are union members?

Only because the retail operations got fucked over on that by the unions.
More fool them.

Can't explain why you put words in my mouth, can you?

Lying. Again.

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by SoCalMike
it all evens out.

Here is how it evens out.

Nope.

Post by George Grapman
Companies pay low wages.

And manage to do that for years and years, regardless
of what stupid union goons and their acolytes claim.

Post by George Grapman
Prices may or may not be lower (when SF raised the minimum wage the fast food
places neither raised prices or fired people).

What matters on that is whether they were
paying less than that before that change, stupid.
And that aint the union wages being discussed anyway.

Post by George Grapman
Low wage employees need food stamps

Bullshit the burger flipping monkeys do.

Post by George Grapman
or heath care from the government

Bullshit the burger flipping monkeys do.

The burder flippers are the low paid people.

Duh. Pity they dont need much 'health care from the govt', cretin.

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman
thereby raising our taxes.

How odd that the taxes in states that havent increased the
federal minimum wage arent always the highest tax states.

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed
Anyone with a clue doesnt get into bed with union goons.

And fools like you get stuck with the higher costs that that produces.

Interesting. We have a chain here called In'out Burger. They start workers at
$9.50 an hour and have edible burgers and fries, nothing frozen, cooked to
order for the same price as a fast food combo meal.
How do they do this? Might be because they are company owned and therefore
are not paying off a franchise fee, passing on a percent of the gross to the
parent company and are not doing massive advertising campaigns.

And they could obviously do the same stuff without paying union wages.

The point, which went over your head, is that they pay a living wage despite
paying a livable wage.

Mindless union bludger bullshit.

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman
On Powell St., right by the fast food places, we have Tads. For about $5 they
give you a real cheeseburger grilled to order, a baked potato and a salad. It
is served on real plates with real silverware and you sit on real chairs.
Tads is a union restaurant.

Whoopy do. Is this where we're all sposed to swoon or sumfin ?
Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed
that hardly any of the fast food operations are stupid
enough to get into bed with any damned union.

As usual, Rod can not address a single point from any post/

Lying again. Fooling absolutely no one at all, as always.

[George Grapman]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by SoCalMike

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work illegal
off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor violations.

Neither does walmart/sams. Those were always union lies.
Fools like you were stupid enough to buy union lies.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by SoCalMike

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman

unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a living wage.

In the Bay Area Costco manages to pay union wages

More fool them.

Post by George Grapman
and still provide good prices.

They'd obviously have even better prices if they didnt pay union wages.

they might even have better prices if they paid minimum wage. where do
you draw the line?

At what is legal and still produces enough
adequate monkeys that perform adequately.

Post by SoCalMike
employees that are paid fast-food wages tend to not give a shit as much
as someone who is making mortgage payments from their wages.

Those that dont give a shit get the bums rush, right out the door.

Which means a higher possibility that the employees you deal with are
inexperienced and untrained.

Thats life. Thats the only viable way to deal with complete duds like that.
McDs etc shows that its completely routine for any operation with a clue.
Even you should understand that.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by SoCalMike
the costco union store employees make slightly less per hour than the
non-union costco store employees. in return, costco contributes to the
teamster pension fund.

More fool them. And you presumably
meant the opposite of what you said.

I never said the union employees make less money.

I never said you did.

Why would I say that when all the Bay Area employees are union members?

Only because the retail operations got fucked over on that by the unions.
More fool them.

Can't explain why you put words in my mouth, can you?

Lying. Again.

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed

Post by SoCalMike
it all evens out.

Here is how it evens out.

Nope.

Post by George Grapman
Companies pay low wages.

And manage to do that for years and years, regardless
of what stupid union goons and their acolytes claim.

Post by George Grapman
Prices may or may not be lower (when SF raised the minimum wage the fast food
places neither raised prices or fired people).

What matters on that is whether they were
paying less than that before that change, stupid.
And that aint the union wages being discussed anyway.

Post by George Grapman
Low wage employees need food stamps

Bullshit the burger flipping monkeys do.

Post by George Grapman
or heath care from the government

Bullshit the burger flipping monkeys do.

The burder flippers are the low paid people.

Duh. Pity they dont need much 'health care from the govt', cretin.

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman
thereby raising our taxes.

How odd that the taxes in states that havent increased the
federal minimum wage arent always the highest tax states.

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Rod Speed
Anyone with a clue doesnt get into bed with union goons.

And fools like you get stuck with the higher costs that that produces.

Interesting. We have a chain here called In'out Burger. They start workers at
$9.50 an hour and have edible burgers and fries, nothing frozen, cooked to
order for the same price as a fast food combo meal.
How do they do this? Might be because they are company owned and therefore
are not paying off a franchise fee, passing on a percent of the gross to the
parent company and are not doing massive advertising campaigns.

And they could obviously do the same stuff without paying union wages.

The point, which went over your head, is that they pay a living wage despite
paying a livable wage.

Mindless union bludger bullshit.

Post by George Grapman

Post by Rod Speed

Post by George Grapman
On Powell St., right by the fast food places, we have Tads. For about $5 they
give you a real cheeseburger grilled to order, a baked potato and a salad. It
is served on real plates with real silverware and you sit on real chairs.
Tads is a union restaurant.

Whoopy do. Is this where we're all sposed to swoon or sumfin ?
Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed
that hardly any of the fast food operations are stupid
enough to get into bed with any damned union.

As usual, Rod can not address a single point from any post/

Lying again. Fooling absolutely no one at all, as always.

Thanks for proving my point for me.

[Rod Speed]

Some fool claiming to be
George Crapchild <***@pacbell.net>
desperately attempted to lie its way
out of its predicament in message news:wQ7Qd.46$***@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
and fooled absolutely no one at all.

No surprise that it needs a union.

It wouldnt even manage that pathetic excuse
for a 'job' as sales fuckwit without one.

[b***@charter.net]

Post by Rod Speed

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work illegal off
the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor violations.

Neither does walmart/sams. Those were always union lies.

Nope.

Post by Rod Speed
Fools like you were stupid enough to buy union lies.

No, fools listen to Rod Speed, expert at nothing.

Wal-Mart doesn't pay fines for child labor law violations because they
are innocent.

<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ID/6958916/>

Wal-Mart doesn't pay $50,000,000 because they are innocent of making
employees work off the clock or lock them in the store.

<http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/wal-mart/not_paid.htm>

[Rod Speed]

Post by b***@charter.net

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Dennis P. Harris
hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work
illegal off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor
violations.

Neither does walmart/sams. Those were always union lies.

Nope.

Yep.

Post by b***@charter.net
Wal-Mart doesn't pay fines for child labor
law violations because they are innocent.
<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ID/6958916/>

Peanuts compared with the cost of legal parasites to take it to court, fool.

Post by b***@charter.net
Wal-Mart doesn't pay $50,000,000 because they are innocent
of making employees work off the clock or lock them in the store.
<http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/wal-mart/not_paid.htm>

A decade ago and it was union lies that they were locked in.

[George Grapman]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by b***@charter.net

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Dennis P. Harris
hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work
illegal off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor
violations.

Neither does walmart/sams. Those were always union lies.

Nope.

Yep.

Post by b***@charter.net
Wal-Mart doesn't pay fines for child labor
law violations because they are innocent.
<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ID/6958916/>

Peanuts compared with the cost of legal parasites to take it to court, fool.

Post by b***@charter.net
Wal-Mart doesn't pay $50,000,000 because they are innocent
of making employees work off the clock or lock them in the store.
<http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/wal-mart/not_paid.htm>

A decade ago and it was union lies that they were locked in.

Where does is say it was a decade ago?
Where does it mention unions?
Why did the jury find them guilty?

[b***@charter.net]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by b***@charter.net

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Dennis P. Harris
hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work
illegal off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor
violations.

Neither does walmart/sams. Those were always union lies.

Nope.

Yep.

Post by b***@charter.net
Wal-Mart doesn't pay fines for child labor
law violations because they are innocent.
<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ID/6958916/>

Peanuts compared with the cost of legal parasites to take it to court, fool.

First it was a union lie, now faced with the facts you say it's
peanuts. Fact is it happened, you lied and claimed it didn't and were
bitch slapped again.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by b***@charter.net
Wal-Mart doesn't pay $50,000,000 because they are innocent
of making employees work off the clock or lock them in the store.
<http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/wal-mart/not_paid.htm>

A decade ago and it was union lies that they were locked in.

Wrong again fecal lover, even Wal-Mart admits they locked them in and
while not company policy, people have worked off the clock.

<http://www.therearguard.pdx.edu/issues/vol6_iss5_feb04/Workers%20Assail%20Night%20Lock.htm>

Give it up. Your credibility just flew out your ass.

[moorehead]

Post by Dennis P. Harris

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Dennis P. Harris
hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work

illegal off

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Dennis P. Harris
the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor

violations.

Post by Dennis P. Harris

Post by Rod Speed
Neither does walmart/sams. Those were always union lies.

Nope.

Post by Rod Speed
Fools like you were stupid enough to buy union lies.

No, fools listen to Rod Speed, expert at nothing.
Wal-Mart doesn't pay fines for child labor law violations because they
are innocent.

Walmart let 17 year olds drive forklifts - that was the extent of their
violation of child labor laws. Stone them!

Post by Dennis P. Harris
Wal-Mart doesn't pay $50,000,000 because they are innocent of making
employees work off the clock or lock them in the store.

Happens in every large organization - happened to me, in fact, when I
worked years ago in management for a big box retailer (not walmart) -
some employees will work off the clock without telling management.
Then, when they get caught stealing and are fired, they *suddenly*
remember all those hours off the clock and sue. This is a dog bites
man story. *YAWN*

Walmart is just the leftard's whipping boy of the moment. A few years
ago, it was Microsoft, and before that, Home Depot. It's like the left
has a genetic predisposition to despise anyone or anything that surges
ahead of the pack - the hatred has nothing to do with wages (Walmart
pays what other retailers pay if not a little more), it has nothing to
do with Chinese labor (if you are wearing clothes, you are probably
wearing something made in China). It has to do with the fact that
successful companies that symbolize wealth, success, and achievement
offend leftists to their ideological core. It reminds them that their
utopian dream of a collectivist society is slipping further and further
away. Next year, the heat will be off Walmart and on some other
successful company.

MJ

[b***@charter.net]

Post by Dennis P. Harris

Post by Dennis P. Harris

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Dennis P. Harris
hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work

illegal off

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Dennis P. Harris
the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor

violations.

Post by Dennis P. Harris

Post by Rod Speed
Neither does walmart/sams. Those were always union lies.

Nope.

Post by Rod Speed
Fools like you were stupid enough to buy union lies.

No, fools listen to Rod Speed, expert at nothing.
Wal-Mart doesn't pay fines for child labor law violations because

they

Post by Dennis P. Harris
are innocent.

Walmart let 17 year olds drive forklifts - that was the extent of their
violation of child labor laws. Stone them!

Is that the only violation or are you downplaying it to fit your own
agenda? I'll repost the link since you left it out:

<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ID/6958916/>

Post by Dennis P. Harris

Post by Dennis P. Harris
Wal-Mart doesn't pay $50,000,000 because they are innocent of making
employees work off the clock or lock them in the store.

Happens in every large organization - happened to me, in fact, when I
worked years ago in management for a big box retailer (not walmart) -
some employees will work off the clock without telling management.
Then, when they get caught stealing and are fired, they *suddenly*
remember all those hours off the clock and sue. This is a dog bites
man story. *YAWN*

Cite the other organizations that were fined $50,000,000 then.
Don't forget about locking them in. KMart did it too.

Post by Dennis P. Harris
Walmart is just the leftard's whipping boy of the moment. A few years
ago, it was Microsoft, and before that, Home Depot. It's like the left
has a genetic predisposition to despise anyone or anything that surges
ahead of the pack - the hatred has nothing to do with wages (Walmart
pays what other retailers pay if not a little more), it has nothing to
do with Chinese labor (if you are wearing clothes, you are probably
wearing something made in China). It has to do with the fact that
successful companies that symbolize wealth, success, and achievement
offend leftists to their ideological core. It reminds them that their
utopian dream of a collectivist society is slipping further and further
away. Next year, the heat will be off Walmart and on some other
successful company.

To quote you, *YAWN*

I'm a conservative Republican who put his time in at Wal-Mart and
speak from experience, not from shopping there.

[suzn]

Post by Dennis P. Harris
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:09:52 -0800 in
misc.consumers.frugal-living, SoCalMike

Post by SoCalMike
itd be worth checking sams out too before you decide.

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work
illegal off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor
violations. unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a
living wage.

Around here in my area the Sams stores have gone down hill some. They are
always messy and not real
clean. Costco seems to be in much better shape.

[SoCalMike]

Post by suzn

Post by Dennis P. Harris
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:09:52 -0800 in
misc.consumers.frugal-living, SoCalMike

Post by SoCalMike
itd be worth checking sams out too before you decide.

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work
illegal off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor
violations. unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a
living wage.

Around here in my area the Sams stores have gone down hill some. They are
always messy and not real
clean. Costco seems to be in much better shape.

depending on where youre from, a lot of the sams clubs used to be "pace
membership warehouses", owned by k-mart. they werent in the best of
shape back then, either.

[SoCalMike]

Post by Dennis P. Harris
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:09:52 -0800 in
misc.consumers.frugal-living, SoCalMike

Post by SoCalMike
itd be worth checking sams out too before you decide.

hey, costco doesn't lock its employees in to make them work
illegal off the clock overtime, or get busted for child labor
violations. unlike wal-mart/sams, they pay their employees a
living wage.

true, and all valid points.

i was just reminding tock. if he has a sams thats as close or closer, he
*might* want to check em out. costco isnt the only game in town.

sams tends to have more "small business" type stuff, theyre open a few
holidays costco isnt, and the membership is $10/yr less. and they tend
to not be as busy :)

[Steve]

Post by SoCalMike
sams tends to have more "small business" type stuff, theyre open a few
holidays costco isnt, and the membership is $10/yr less. and they tend
to not be as busy :)

That last item is a major selling point for me.

[SoCalMike]

Post by Steve

Post by The Real Bev

Post by imascot
Tock, the AE/Costco card has a cashback feature. We use ours for
everything we can, and it all adds up. This month we're getting the
2004 rebate of around $200.00 (It more than covers the Costco annual
fee.)

AND the Costco AE card has no fee. Nothing to lose and lots to gain.

Plus, the AE can be used as your membership card, no need to carry
both. Which is sorta interesting, since it's not a picture ID.

mine has a pic on it.

[Lauri]

Post by Tock
I still don't like the idea of having to pay $45 for the privilege of
shopping in somebody's store,

That bugs me, too, but it's really only half the price since I share
my membership with my mom. According to my local Costco, it's not
necessary to even be related to the person that you're sharing your
membership with. I don't know if I'd keep my membership if it were
the full fee, but I save enough on things like butter and frozen
chicken to keep it at $22.50 a year.

Tock, see if your Costco will let you share a membership with a friend
so you can save on that annual fee.

Lauri in WA

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