Are you worried BP goes under and the UK becomes the 51st State?

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

I was hearing in the news today how worried the British government is
about BP losing ground and the investors not getting their returns...
That would be the End of the World as we know it, right?

http://www.bp.com/investorhome.do?categoryId=132&contentId=2004195

What's next, America taking over?

I like what they have to say here...

"That trampoline is less secure than a job in a British industry."

----------------------------------------------------------------------

THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS

"Don't worry be happy!"

http://webspawner/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

On Jun 10, 7:57 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I was hearing in the news today how worried the British government is
about BP losing ground and the investors not getting their returns...
That would be the End of the World as we know it, right?
http://www.bp.com/investorhome.do?categoryId=132&contentId=2004195
What's next, America taking over?
I like what they have to say here...
"That trampoline is less secure than a job in a British industry."
http://youtu.be/Ya1StRWWDvk
----------------------------------------------------------------------
THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
"Don't worry be happy!"
http://webspawner/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE

No. But since the UK monarchy owns a huge stake in BP, will the UK
start a war with us? Will the British Virgin Islands attack us?

You never know if they are in bad mood. Remember the Falklands.

Luckily a good chunk of the investors are Americans.

[Jim A]

On 06/11/2010 01:08 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I was hearing in the news today how worried the British government is
about BP losing ground and the investors not getting their returns...
That would be the End of the World as we know it, right?
http://www.bp.com/investorhome.do?categoryId=132&contentId=2004195
What's next, America taking over?

They were saying in the news yesterday that (iirc) the US owns about 40%
of the shares in BP. If BP is going down, we're taking you with us!

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I like what they have to say here...
"That trampoline is less secure than a job in a British industry."

British Industry? What's that? We've turned in to a nation of bankers
and aromatherapists.

[Derek C]

Post by Jim A
On 06/11/2010 01:08 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I was hearing in the news today how worried the British government is
about BP losing ground and the investors not getting their returns...
That would be the End of the World as we know it, right?
http://www.bp.com/investorhome.do?categoryId=132&contentId=2004195
What's next, America taking over?

They were saying in the news yesterday that (iirc) the US owns about 40%
of the shares in BP.  If BP is going down, we're taking you with us!

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I like what they have to say here...
"That trampoline is less secure than a job in a British industry."

British Industry?  What's that?  We've turned in to a nation of bankers
and aromatherapists.

And benefit scroungers, including me unfortunately, as I was made
redundant from my private sector job last year and even the most
menial job has about 100 applicants for it. I have only managed to do
a few weeks' temping work so far. And it's likely to get much worse! I
think that Messrs. Bush, Blair and Brown (why do they all have
surnames that start with a B?) have a lot to answer for.

Derek C

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Derek C

Post by Jim A
On 06/11/2010 01:08 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I was hearing in the news today how worried the British government is
about BP losing ground and the investors not getting their returns...
That would be the End of the World as we know it, right?
http://www.bp.com/investorhome.do?categoryId=132&contentId=2004195
What's next, America taking over?

They were saying in the news yesterday that (iirc) the US owns about 40%
of the shares in BP.  If BP is going down, we're taking you with us!

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I like what they have to say here...
"That trampoline is less secure than a job in a British industry."

British Industry?  What's that?  We've turned in to a nation of bankers
and aromatherapists.

And benefit scroungers, including me unfortunately, as I was made
redundant from my private sector job last year and even the most
menial job has about 100 applicants for it. I have only managed to do
a few weeks' temping work so far. And it's likely to get much worse! I
think that Messrs. Bush, Blair and Brown (why do they all have
surnames that start with a B?) have a lot to answer for.
Derek C

I think they are all B actors. ;)

My girlfriend's job in shipping has been sent to El Salvador, so she's
HANGING IN THE HAMMOCK with me.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I was hearing in the news today how worried the British government is
about BP losing ground and the investors not getting their returns...
That would be the End of the World as we know it, right?
http://www.bp.com/investorhome.do?categoryId=132&contentId=2004195
What's next, America taking over?
I like what they have to say here...
"That trampoline is less secure than a job in a British industry."
http://youtu.be/Ya1StRWWDvk
----------------------------------------------------------------------
THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
"Don't worry be happy!"
http://webspawner/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE

Well they must be doing something good. For a little over $300 you can buy one mesely share of the company.
I'm not sure how many US based companies have share prices that high. It ain't many, if any.

So long as there are sheep willing to drive SUVs and not try a bike in
the community, BIG OIL gets fed.

I tried to reflect in the above post that the EVIL BIG OIL is just
doing the dirty job for stockholders and the general public (the
sheep) who are addicted to the stuff, all with the blessing of the Big
Brother.

Do you think they are open to alternative transportation?

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:09:51 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I was hearing in the news today how worried the British government is
about BP losing ground and the investors not getting their returns...
That would be the End of the World as we know it, right?

It would be for the British pensioners present and future whose pension
funds are tied up in BPs shareprice, you annoying little monkey.

.

Good for them. Welcome to the wonderful world of frugality. Fat
retired people are no good.

Hanging in the hammock is the perfect way to enjoy your retirement.
Riding a bike would be the perfect complement to be healthy, but
there's much hostility toward it on the roads.

[Bill Sornson]

Post by Derek C
I
think that Messrs. Bush, Blair and Brown (why do they all have
surnames that start with a B?) have a lot to answer for.

BP gave more money to Obama than any other politician.

Obama gave the doomed BP oil rig a SAFETY AWARD two weeks before it blew up.

Obama waived inspections and regulation enforcement of many deep-water gulf
oil rigs, including Horizon.

Obama waited nine full days to say a single public word about the spill.

Obama's chief of staff Rahm Emanuel (middle name "Israel" in an ironic,
self-hating twist) lived rent-free in a BP lobbyist's DC townhouse. (You
know, those lobbyists Obama pledged would be eliminated from his admin.)
Can you imagine if Carl Freaking Rove had had an arrangement like that?
Wonder if he paid taxes on that little deal.

Obama appointed an incompetent (read: corrupt) crony to head the MMS, then
fired her. When asked about it, the Man In Charge From Day One knew nothing
about it.

But it's all Bush's fault.

Got it.

BS

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Bill Sornson

Post by Derek C
I
think that Messrs. Bush, Blair and Brown (why do they all have
surnames that start with a B?) have a lot to answer for.

BP gave more money to Obama than any other politician.
Obama gave the doomed BP oil rig a SAFETY AWARD two weeks before it blew up.
Obama waived inspections and regulation enforcement of many deep-water gulf
oil rigs, including Horizon.
Obama waited nine full days to say a single public word about the spill.
Obama's chief of staff Rahm Emanuel (middle name "Israel" in an ironic,
self-hating twist) lived rent-free in a BP lobbyist's DC townhouse.  (You
know, those lobbyists Obama pledged would be eliminated from his admin.)
Can you imagine if Carl Freaking Rove had had an arrangement like that?
Wonder if he paid taxes on that little deal.
Obama appointed an incompetent (read: corrupt) crony to head the MMS, then
fired her.  When asked about it, the Man In Charge From Day One knew nothing
about it.
But it's all Bush's fault.
Got it.
BS

I think the Republicans are more openly PRO-BUSINESS while the
Democrats really pretend to put a cap on it. But our most leftist
politician is likely to the right of Europe's most right wing.

The whole thing takes some thinking outside of the box.

Obama could have opened a whole new era when he rescued the American
automobile industry, which could have produced alternative
transportation (trains, trolleys, buses) instead of the same old junk
dependent on Big Oil.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Jun 11, 1:09 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Bill Sornson

Post by Derek C
I
think that Messrs. Bush, Blair and Brown (why do they all have
surnames that start with a B?) have a lot to answer for.

BP gave more money to Obama than any other politician.
Obama gave the doomed BP oil rig a SAFETY AWARD two weeks before it blew up.
Obama waived inspections and regulation enforcement of many deep-water gulf
oil rigs, including Horizon.
Obama waited nine full days to say a single public word about the spill.
Obama's chief of staff Rahm Emanuel (middle name "Israel" in an ironic,
self-hating twist) lived rent-free in a BP lobbyist's DC townhouse.  (You
know, those lobbyists Obama pledged would be eliminated from his admin.)
Can you imagine if Carl Freaking Rove had had an arrangement like that?
Wonder if he paid taxes on that little deal.
Obama appointed an incompetent (read: corrupt) crony to head the MMS, then
fired her.  When asked about it, the Man In Charge From Day One knew nothing
about it.
But it's all Bush's fault.
Got it.
BS

I think the Republicans are more openly PRO-BUSINESS while the
Democrats really pretend to put a cap on it. But our most leftist
politician is likely to the right of Europe's most right wing.
The whole thing takes some thinking outside of the box.
Obama could have opened a whole new era when he rescued the American
automobile industry, which could have produced alternative
transportation (trains, trolleys, buses) instead of the same old junk
dependent on Big Oil.

Exactly what do you think trains, trolleys and buses run on? Pixie
dust?

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Cindy Hamilton
On Jun 11, 1:09 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Bill Sornson

Post by Derek C
I
think that Messrs. Bush, Blair and Brown (why do they all have
surnames that start with a B?) have a lot to answer for.

BP gave more money to Obama than any other politician.
Obama gave the doomed BP oil rig a SAFETY AWARD two weeks before it blew up.
Obama waived inspections and regulation enforcement of many deep-water gulf
oil rigs, including Horizon.
Obama waited nine full days to say a single public word about the spill.
Obama's chief of staff Rahm Emanuel (middle name "Israel" in an ironic,
self-hating twist) lived rent-free in a BP lobbyist's DC townhouse.  (You
know, those lobbyists Obama pledged would be eliminated from his admin.)
Can you imagine if Carl Freaking Rove had had an arrangement like that?
Wonder if he paid taxes on that little deal.
Obama appointed an incompetent (read: corrupt) crony to head the MMS, then
fired her.  When asked about it, the Man In Charge From Day One knew nothing
about it.
But it's all Bush's fault.
Got it.
BS

I think the Republicans are more openly PRO-BUSINESS while the
Democrats really pretend to put a cap on it. But our most leftist
politician is likely to the right of Europe's most right wing.
The whole thing takes some thinking outside of the box.
Obama could have opened a whole new era when he rescued the American
automobile industry, which could have produced alternative
transportation (trains, trolleys, buses) instead of the same old junk
dependent on Big Oil.

Exactly what do you think trains, trolleys and buses run on?  Pixie
dust?

Efficiency is the name of the game. Public transportation (properly
used) is so much more efficient than cars. Germany and Japan only have
a third of American consumption.

Bicycles can be used to further facilitate individual transportation
at the local level or in conjunction with public transportation.

[Rod Speed]

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Bill Sornson

Post by Derek C
I
think that Messrs. Bush, Blair and Brown (why do they all have
surnames that start with a B?) have a lot to answer for.

BP gave more money to Obama than any other politician.
Obama gave the doomed BP oil rig a SAFETY AWARD two weeks before it blew up.
Obama waived inspections and regulation enforcement of many
deep-water gulf oil rigs, including Horizon.
Obama waited nine full days to say a single public word about the spill.
Obama's chief of staff Rahm Emanuel (middle name "Israel" in an
ironic, self-hating twist) lived rent-free in a BP lobbyist's DC
townhouse. (You know, those lobbyists Obama pledged would be
eliminated from his admin.) Can you imagine if Carl Freaking Rove
had had an arrangement like that? Wonder if he paid taxes on that
little deal.
Obama appointed an incompetent (read: corrupt) crony to head the
MMS, then fired her. When asked about it, the Man In Charge From Day
One knew nothing about it.
But it's all Bush's fault.
Got it.
BS

I think the Republicans are more openly PRO-BUSINESS while the
Democrats really pretend to put a cap on it. But our most leftist
politician is likely to the right of Europe's most right wing.
The whole thing takes some thinking outside of the box.

Nope. Thats just another mindless mantra.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Obama could have opened a whole new era when
he rescued the American automobile industry,

Nope.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
which could have produced alternative transportation (trains,
trolleys, buses) instead of the same old junk dependent on Big Oil.

Car plants are useless for producing trains, stupid.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Rod Speed
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Bill Sornson

Post by Derek C
I
think that Messrs. Bush, Blair and Brown (why do they all have
surnames that start with a B?) have a lot to answer for.

BP gave more money to Obama than any other politician.
Obama gave the doomed BP oil rig a SAFETY AWARD two weeks before it blew up.
Obama waived inspections and regulation enforcement of many
deep-water gulf oil rigs, including Horizon.
Obama waited nine full days to say a single public word about the spill.
Obama's chief of staff Rahm Emanuel (middle name "Israel" in an
ironic, self-hating twist) lived rent-free in a BP lobbyist's DC
townhouse. (You know, those lobbyists Obama pledged would be
eliminated from his admin.) Can you imagine if Carl Freaking Rove
had had an arrangement like that? Wonder if he paid taxes on that
little deal.
Obama appointed an incompetent (read: corrupt) crony to head the
MMS, then fired her. When asked about it, the Man In Charge From Day
One knew nothing about it.
But it's all Bush's fault.
Got it.
BS

I think the Republicans are more openly PRO-BUSINESS while the
Democrats really pretend to put a cap on it. But our most leftist
politician is likely to the right of Europe's most right wing.
The whole thing takes some thinking outside of the box.

Nope. Thats just another mindless mantra.

Nobody questions in Europe the need for improving transportation
infrastructure such as trains or even bike facilities.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Obama could have opened a whole new era when
he rescued the American automobile industry,

Nope.

Oh yeah, he's the last chance we got. The Republicans coming after him
will all be about selfishness.

[Rod Speed]

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Bill Sornson

I think that Messrs. Bush, Blair and Brown (why do they all
have surnames that start with a B?) have a lot to answer for.

BP gave more money to Obama than any other politician.
Obama gave the doomed BP oil rig a SAFETY AWARD two weeks before it blew up.
Obama waived inspections and regulation enforcement
of many deep-water gulf oil rigs, including Horizon.
Obama waited nine full days to say a single public word about the spill.
Obama's chief of staff Rahm Emanuel (middle name "Israel" in an
ironic, self-hating twist) lived rent-free in a BP lobbyist's DC
townhouse. (You know, those lobbyists Obama pledged would be
eliminated from his admin.) Can you imagine if Carl Freaking Rove
had had an arrangement like that? Wonder if he paid taxes on that
little deal.
Obama appointed an incompetent (read: corrupt) crony to head the
MMS, then fired her. When asked about it, the Man In Charge From
Day One knew nothing about it.
But it's all Bush's fault.
Got it.
BS

I think the Republicans are more openly PRO-BUSINESS while the
Democrats really pretend to put a cap on it. But our most leftist
politician is likely to the right of Europe's most right wing.
The whole thing takes some thinking outside of the box.

Nope. Thats just another mindless mantra.

Nobody questions in Europe the need for improving transportation
infrastructure such as trains or even bike facilities.

Wrong, as always. Watch Top Gear sometime.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Obama could have opened a whole new era when
he rescued the American automobile industry,

Nope.

Oh yeah, he's the last chance we got.

Nope. He's just another stupid lawyer, nothing will change, you watch.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
The Republicans coming after him will all be about selfishness.

There wont be another repug prez any time soon after those clowns allowed
the complete implosion of the entire world financial system, AGAIN.

You wont see labor in govt in that soggy little island of yours any time soon either.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Bill Sornson

I think that Messrs. Bush, Blair and Brown (why do they all
have surnames that start with a B?) have a lot to answer for.

BP gave more money to Obama than any other politician.
Obama gave the doomed BP oil rig a SAFETY AWARD two weeks before it blew up.
Obama waived inspections and regulation enforcement
of many deep-water gulf oil rigs, including Horizon.
Obama waited nine full days to say a single public word about the spill.
Obama's chief of staff Rahm Emanuel (middle name "Israel" in an
ironic, self-hating twist) lived rent-free in a BP lobbyist's DC
townhouse. (You know, those lobbyists Obama pledged would be
eliminated from his admin.) Can you imagine if Carl Freaking Rove
had had an arrangement like that? Wonder if he paid taxes on that
little deal.
Obama appointed an incompetent (read: corrupt) crony to head the
MMS, then fired her. When asked about it, the Man In Charge From
Day One knew nothing about it.
But it's all Bush's fault.
Got it.
BS

I think the Republicans are more openly PRO-BUSINESS while the
Democrats really pretend to put a cap on it. But our most leftist
politician is likely to the right of Europe's most right wing.
The whole thing takes some thinking outside of the box.

Nope. Thats just another mindless mantra.

Nobody questions in Europe the need for improving transportation
infrastructure such as trains or even bike facilities.

Wrong, as always. Watch Top Gear sometime.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Obama could have opened a whole new era when
he rescued the American automobile industry,

Nope.

Oh yeah, he's the last chance we got.

Nope. He's just another stupid lawyer, nothing will change, you watch.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
The Republicans coming after him will all be about selfishness.

There wont be another repug prez any time soon after those clowns allowed
the complete implosion of the entire world financial system, AGAIN.
You wont see labor in govt in that soggy little island of yours any time soon either.

If Obama doesn't deliver, the next charismatic leader will take the
prize.

Maybe even Sarah Palin!

http://www.palin4pres2012.com/

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Remember this: "WE NEED THE SPACE TO LIVE!"

Don't play The Scarcity Game.
More to the point, everyone knows we owe China & Japan oodles of money
to pay for Hussein Obama's little private wars...

I thought he inherited those hot potatoes, I mean hot spots.

Anyway, shouldn't we give up such Quixotic enterprises and start
nation building here?

Imagine we had so many resources to do something really grandiose
here.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:09:51 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I was hearing in the news today how worried the British government
is about BP losing ground and the investors not getting their
returns... That would be the End of the World as we know it, right?

It would be for the British pensioners present and future whose
pension funds are tied up in BPs shareprice, you annoying little
monkey.

Although 40% of BP is owned by British people and British pension funds, 39%
of it is owned by Americans and US pension funds. So it could also hit his
pension where it hurts....in his pocket.

I don't pity pensioners who invest in dirty oil. Let them be wise and
invest in solar energy or something clean.

They will learn the lesson next time, though the hammock industry
looks good...

(He's talking about the bad corporations selling bad rope hammocks)

"Public corporations are bound by their duty to shareholders to sell
you the least comfort for the highest profit"

http://ropehammocks.com/

[Rod Speed]

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Remember this: "WE NEED THE SPACE TO LIVE!"

Don't play The Scarcity Game.
More to the point, everyone knows we owe China & Japan
oodles of money to pay for Hussein Obama's little private wars...

I thought he inherited those hot potatoes, I mean hot spots.
Anyway, shouldn't we give up such Quixotic enterprises and start nation building here?

Slick tried that approach and the US ended up with 9/11.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Imagine we had so many resources to do something really grandiose here.

It aint about resources.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Remember this: "WE NEED THE SPACE TO LIVE!"

Don't play The Scarcity Game.
More to the point, everyone knows we owe China & Japan
oodles of money to pay for Hussein Obama's little private wars...

I thought he inherited those hot potatoes, I mean hot spots.
Anyway, shouldn't we give up such Quixotic enterprises and start nation building here?

Slick tried that approach and the US ended up with 9/11.

Better security would be a much wiser investment.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Imagine we had so many resources to do something really grandiose here.

It aint about resources.

Oh no, Obama won't accomplish much because of the lack of it. And
whatever he got... goes into the Black Hole of Bureaucracy.

[Jim A]

On 06/12/2010 01:49 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Remember this: "WE NEED THE SPACE TO LIVE!"

Don't play The Scarcity Game.
More to the point, everyone knows we owe China& Japan
oodles of money to pay for Hussein Obama's little private wars...

I thought he inherited those hot potatoes, I mean hot spots.
Anyway, shouldn't we give up such Quixotic enterprises and start nation building here?

Slick tried that approach and the US ended up with 9/11.

Better security would be a much wiser investment.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Imagine we had so many resources to do something really grandiose here.

It aint about resources.

Oh no, Obama won't accomplish much because of the lack of it. And
whatever he got... goes into the Black Hole of Bureaucracy.

Shouldn't that be the "African American" Hole of Bureaucracy?




IGMC ...

[a real cheapskate]

Frankly I HOPE BP GOES BANKRUPT!

Companies who put profit over safety endager everyone!

So assume BP goes bankrupt their substantial assets would be sold off,
paying all claims for damages.

the stock holders would loose big time, such is one of the risks of
stocks.

the name BP would disappear, current BP management would be out of
work.

the franchise BP stations would be sold and rebranded into other
names, the assets would continue in operation by other hopefully safer
companies.

the death of BP is critical to everyones safety!

other companies will take notice and decide safety must be above
profit.

if this fails to occur the next disaster might be a nuke power company
who puts profit over safety, and turns a big chunk of our country into
a death zone where no one can live for a 100,000 years while raising
the worlds cancer rate.

or a bio engineering company that accidently releases a artifical life
form, killing millions, with the potential to wipe out humans on
earth......

BP needs to die for everyones safety!!

[Derek C]

Post by a real cheapskate
Frankly I HOPE BP GOES BANKRUPT!
Companies who put profit over safety endager everyone!
So assume BP goes bankrupt their substantial assets would be sold off,
paying all claims for damages.
the stock holders would loose big time, such is one of the risks of
stocks.
the name BP would disappear, current BP management would be out of
work.
the franchise BP stations would be sold and rebranded into other
names, the assets would continue in operation by other hopefully safer
companies.
the death of BP is critical to everyones safety!
other companies will take notice and decide safety must be above
profit.
if this fails to occur the next disaster might be a nuke power company
who puts profit over safety, and turns a big chunk of our country into
a death zone where no one can live for a 100,000 years while raising
the worlds cancer rate.
or a bio engineering company that accidently releases a artifical life
form, killing millions, with the potential to wipe out humans on
earth......
BP needs to die for everyones safety!!

The death of BP (BRITISH Petroleum) would just allow the big US
companies to take over the same markets, to the great detriment of the
UK economy. Do you really want that?

Derek C

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Derek C

Post by a real cheapskate
Frankly I HOPE BP GOES BANKRUPT!
Companies who put profit over safety endager everyone!
So assume BP goes bankrupt their substantial assets would be sold off,
paying all claims for damages.
the stock holders would loose big time, such is one of the risks of
stocks.
the name BP would disappear, current BP management would be out of
work.
the franchise BP stations would be sold and rebranded into other
names, the assets would continue in operation by other hopefully safer
companies.
the death of BP is critical to everyones safety!
other companies will take notice and decide safety must be above
profit.
if this fails to occur the next disaster might be a nuke power company
who puts profit over safety, and turns a big chunk of our country into
a death zone where no one can live for a 100,000 years while raising
the worlds cancer rate.
or a bio engineering company that accidently releases a artifical life
form, killing millions, with the potential to wipe out humans on
earth......
BP needs to die for everyones safety!!

The death of BP (BRITISH Petroleum) would just allow the big US
companies to take over the same markets, to the great detriment of the
UK economy. Do you really want that?
Derek C

Yes, then the UK will turn its attention to other sources of energy.
Germany has done it... why not you?

It's like I say, "Germany lost the war and won the peace."

"The share of electricity from renewable energy in Germany has
increased from 6.3 percent in 2000 to about 16.1 percent in 2009. More
than 9 billion euros (US$11.31 billion) was invested in new renewable
energy installations in Germany in 2006. Some 214,000 people in
Germany were employed in the renewable energy sector in 2006,
especially in small and medium sized companies. Over half of these
jobs are attributed to the Renewable Energy Sources Act."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_Germany

[Jim A]

On 06/12/2010 04:24 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Yes, then the UK will turn its attention to other sources of energy.
Germany has done it... why not you?

Good question. It's shameful we're not doing more.

One reason I suspect (which is no excuse) is in the UK we have a much
higher population density. Nobody wants to live next to a wind turbine
so very few get built.

I hope we'll soon catch up with our neighbours in Europe by using
offshore wind, tidal and wave energy.

Certainly I don't want more nuclear here either. Scotland got that one
sorted - they have decided no more nuclear - why can't we decide the same?

I generate my own elecricity on the bicycle with my dynamo - I know it's
not much but it's a start! :-)

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Jim A
On 06/12/2010 04:24 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Yes, then the UK will turn its attention to other sources of energy.
Germany has done it... why not you?

Good question.  It's shameful we're not doing more.
One reason I suspect (which is no excuse) is in the UK we have a much
higher population density.  Nobody wants to live next to a wind turbine
so very few get built.
I hope we'll soon catch up with our neighbours in Europe by using
offshore wind, tidal and wave energy.
Certainly I don't want more nuclear here either.  Scotland got that one
sorted - they have decided no more nuclear - why can't we decide the same?
I generate my own elecricity on the bicycle with my dynamo - I know it's
not much but it's a start! :-)
--www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride

I'm afraid the reason is you are much closer to America than to
Europe. Not geographically, of course.

I'm trying to do my share here, but hanging in the hammock is my best
safe option so far. I save about 100w compared to a TV plus I turn off
the A/C. They are getting my banana, so to speak. ;)

[Jim A]

On 06/12/2010 06:18 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Jim A
On 06/12/2010 04:24 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Yes, then the UK will turn its attention to other sources of energy.
Germany has done it... why not you?

Good question. It's shameful we're not doing more.
One reason I suspect (which is no excuse) is in the UK we have a much
higher population density. Nobody wants to live next to a wind turbine
so very few get built.
I hope we'll soon catch up with our neighbours in Europe by using
offshore wind, tidal and wave energy.
Certainly I don't want more nuclear here either. Scotland got that one
sorted - they have decided no more nuclear - why can't we decide the same?
I generate my own elecricity on the bicycle with my dynamo - I know it's
not much but it's a start! :-)
--www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride

I'm afraid the reason is you are much closer to America than to
Europe. Not geographically, of course.
I'm trying to do my share here, but hanging in the hammock is my best
safe option so far. I save about 100w compared to a TV plus I turn off
the A/C. They are getting my banana, so to speak. ;)

Mercifully domestic AC is rare here in the UK. We Brits do our bit to
hasten the end of life as we know it by using patio heaters instead though!

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Jim A
On 06/12/2010 06:18 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Jim A
On 06/12/2010 04:24 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Yes, then the UK will turn its attention to other sources of energy.
Germany has done it... why not you?

Good question.  It's shameful we're not doing more.
One reason I suspect (which is no excuse) is in the UK we have a much
higher population density.  Nobody wants to live next to a wind turbine
so very few get built.
I hope we'll soon catch up with our neighbours in Europe by using
offshore wind, tidal and wave energy.
Certainly I don't want more nuclear here either.  Scotland got that one
sorted - they have decided no more nuclear - why can't we decide the same?
I generate my own elecricity on the bicycle with my dynamo - I know it's
not much but it's a start! :-)
--www.slowbicyclemovement.org-enjoy the ride

I'm afraid the reason is you are much closer to America than to
Europe. Not geographically, of course.
I'm trying to do my share here, but hanging in the hammock is my best
safe option so far. I save about 100w compared to a TV plus I turn off
the A/C. They are getting my banana, so to speak. ;)

Mercifully domestic AC is rare here in the UK.  We Brits do our bit to
hasten the end of life as we know it by using patio heaters instead though!
--www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride

So it's not a place for hammocks. But you can get a thick quilted
hammock not a tropical one.

I'm kind of becoming an expert in the field of saving energy through
hammocks.

I bet bananas don't grow there either. ;)

[Jim A]

On 06/12/2010 06:36 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
So it's not a place for hammocks. But you can get a thick quilted
hammock not a tropical one.
I'm kind of becoming an expert in the field of saving energy through
hammocks.
I bet bananas don't grow there either. ;)

No, although it's only a matter of time until they do! :-(

I saw some bananas in a banana tree in someone's front garden in Devon a
couple of years ago. I presume someone had bought them from a shop and
hung them there for a joke - they were hanging the wrong way up.

I like the quilted hammock idea! :-)

[Rod Speed]

Post by Jim A
On 06/12/2010 04:24 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Yes, then the UK will turn its attention to other sources of energy.
Germany has done it... why not you?

Good question. It's shameful we're not doing more.
One reason I suspect (which is no excuse) is in the UK we have a much
higher population density. Nobody wants to live next to a wind
turbine so very few get built.
I hope we'll soon catch up with our neighbours in Europe by using
offshore wind, tidal and wave energy.
Certainly I don't want more nuclear here either. Scotland got that
one sorted - they have decided no more nuclear - why can't we decide
the same?

Because its a stupid approach. Nukes are much more viable than wind, tidal and wave energy.

Post by Jim A
I generate my own elecricity on the bicycle with my dynamo - I know it's not much but it's a start! :-)

Try heating your house with that.

[Jim A]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Jim A
On 06/12/2010 04:24 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Yes, then the UK will turn its attention to other sources of energy.
Germany has done it... why not you?

Good question. It's shameful we're not doing more.
One reason I suspect (which is no excuse) is in the UK we have a much
higher population density. Nobody wants to live next to a wind
turbine so very few get built.
I hope we'll soon catch up with our neighbours in Europe by using
offshore wind, tidal and wave energy.
Certainly I don't want more nuclear here either. Scotland got that
one sorted - they have decided no more nuclear - why can't we decide
the same?

Because its a stupid approach. Nukes are much more viable than wind, tidal and wave energy.

Post by Jim A
I generate my own elecricity on the bicycle with my dynamo - I know it's not much but it's a start! :-)

Try heating your house with that.

ok.

[a real cheapskate]

BP had over 800 citations for major safety violations, in the same
time period sunoco 8 exxon 1

BP had the texas city refinery explosion traced to cost cutting. 14
died

BP had the alaska oil pipeline spill, seems they never dids any major
maintence on the pipeline since it was built

[Jim A]

Post by a real cheapskate
BP had over 800 citations for major safety violations, in the same
time period sunoco 8 exxon 1
BP had the texas city refinery explosion traced to cost cutting. 14
died
BP had the alaska oil pipeline spill, seems they never dids any major
maintence on the pipeline since it was built

Ain't Google a great thing?

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Jim A

Post by a real cheapskate
BP had over 800 citations for major safety violations, in the same
time period sunoco 8 exxon 1
BP had the texas city refinery explosion traced to cost cutting. 14
died
BP had the alaska oil pipeline spill, seems they never dids any major
maintence on the pipeline since it was built

Ain't Google a great thing?
--www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride

Yep, part of my wisdom I get from there. ;)

Actually I only find the details that support my wisdom of frugality.
I think wisdom can only be found on the street. Maybe I'm wrong
though.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

It's important that people know where my wisdom comes from. It's not
from pot for sure...

nah ... i didnt bother watching it. i guess im over-satired. i find it
impressive how much time of the day you spend on your anti-religious
meanderings ... i just figured that you MUST have a big bag of pot ...
or something ...

I just got a mango tree, which is the Tree of Knowledge.

Then the birds come and tell me what's going in the jungle. They seek
refuge in my green patio from all the dangers out there.

Maybe I should call my patio the Garden of Eden.

[Rod Speed]

Post by a real cheapskate
BP had over 800 citations for major safety violations,
in the same time period sunoco 8 exxon 1

What matters is how much exploration work those others did in the same time.

Post by a real cheapskate
BP had the texas city refinery explosion traced to cost cutting. 14 died

It aint the only refinery explosion.

Post by a real cheapskate
BP had the alaska oil pipeline spill, seems they never dids
any major maintence on the pipeline since it was built

spills arent due to the lack of pipeline maintenance.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Jim A
On 06/12/2010 04:24 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Yes, then the UK will turn its attention to other sources of energy.
Germany has done it... why not you?

Good question.  It's shameful we're not doing more.
One reason I suspect (which is no excuse) is in the UK we have a much
higher population density.  Nobody wants to live next to a wind
turbine so very few get built.
I hope we'll soon catch up with our neighbours in Europe by using
offshore wind, tidal and wave energy.
Certainly I don't want more nuclear here either.  Scotland got that
one sorted - they have decided no more nuclear - why can't we decide
the same?

Because its a stupid approach. Nukes are much more viable than wind, tidal and wave energy.

Post by Jim A
I generate my own elecricity on the bicycle with my dynamo - I know it's not much but it's a start! :-)

Try heating your house with that.

Perhaps it's a nice way to assume personal responsibility for the
problems we all feed. All other ways require a wasteful bureaucracy to
one degree or another.

With a bike, you just go.

[Rod Speed]

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Jim A
On 06/12/2010 04:24 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Yes, then the UK will turn its attention to other sources of
energy. Germany has done it... why not you?

Good question. It's shameful we're not doing more.
One reason I suspect (which is no excuse) is in the UK we have a much
higher population density. Nobody wants to live next to a wind
turbine so very few get built.
I hope we'll soon catch up with our neighbours in Europe by using
offshore wind, tidal and wave energy.
Certainly I don't want more nuclear here either. Scotland got that
one sorted - they have decided no more nuclear - why can't we decide
the same?

Because its a stupid approach. Nukes are much more viable than wind,
tidal and wave energy.

Post by Jim A
I generate my own elecricity on the bicycle with my dynamo - I know
it's not much but it's a start! :-)

Try heating your house with that.

Perhaps it's a nice way to assume personal responsibility for the problems we all feed.

Meaningless waffle.

All other ways require a wasteful bureaucracy to one degree or another.

Wrong, as always.

With a bike, you just go.

And get run over and squashed flat.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

On Jun 11, 7:04 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Remember this: "WE NEED THE SPACE TO LIVE!"

Don't play The Scarcity Game.
More to the point, everyone knows we owe China & Japan oodles of money
to pay for Hussein Obama's little private wars...

I thought he inherited those hot potatoes, I mean hot spots.
Anyway, shouldn't we give up such Quixotic enterprises and start nation building here?
Imagine we had so many resources to do something really grandiose here.

STFU you Big Government Socialist! Go back to Red China with their
social purges and "5 year plans" if you want this "social engineering"
masquerading as nation building!

Actually I don't particularly like bureaucrats unless they solve a
problem, and more often than not, they are the problem!

Public transportation requires one, but launching a bike doesn't. I
think the cyclist is very symbol of anarchism, while the SUV
represents Libertarianism.

We should junk the SUV, tame traffic, create a good public
transportation system and proceed to open the roads for all vehicles
to share.

Mao was wrong but the current communist government is even more wrong
in trying to put the Chinese to imitate the American lifestyle. That's
the greatest ecological disaster awaiting us.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Rod Speed
And get run over and squashed flat.

Just because your traffic is as bad that we all playing a Russian
Roulette on it.

[Derek C]

On Jun 13, 3:27 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Rod Speed
And get run over and squashed flat.

Just because your traffic is as bad that we all playing a Russian
Roulette on it.

I assume you are American because you are obviously totally nuts. I
note that the US has a very low rate of cycling, but a very high
cycling death rate. I hate to quote <cyclehelmets.org>, but:

http://www.cyclehelmets.org/1079.html

Must be due to all those huge SUVs you have over there.

Derek C

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Derek C
On Jun 13, 3:27 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Rod Speed
And get run over and squashed flat.

Just because your traffic is as bad that we all playing a Russian
Roulette on it.

I assume you are American because you are obviously totally nuts. I
note that the US has a very low rate of cycling, but a very high
http://www.cyclehelmets.org/1079.html
Must be due to all those huge SUVs you have over there.
Derek C

Before we can talk about bike safety we must talk about TRAFFIC
SAFETY. I bet the average driver out there doesn't even question it
and politicians couldn't care less, but it's a NATIONAL CATASTROPHE.

The way to be safe is to go BIG. A cyclist is just a nuisance on the
road and can be pushed around at will.

No surprise we get those numbers.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

(Let me do my Sunday preaching about masturbation, hypocrisy, bicycles
and hammocks) ;)

No Christianity is bad for your brain. Masturbation is good for you, it
cures the urge to have sex before marriage and thus it decreases the
abortion rate. It also prevents rape and people acting out their
perverted
fantasies. If there was no Masturbation everyone would be as stuck up and
high strung as Muslims. So when people call me a wanker I say yes, yes I
am.

You're proving yourself to be weirder all the time. If you ever did have
sex, you would know how ridiculous what you posted was.
--

As I explained to another poster I was trying to appeal to the religious nut
who said masturbation is bad for you. Masturbation and sex is good for you.
If Muslims masturbated more they wouldn't be so uptight.

The name of the game for religion is hypocrisy. They do everything but
feel good to attack it in public. Hundreds are dying in Mexico over
the stupid prohibition, but we must pretend we are fighting evil. And
they also use prescription drugs which are another dependency.

I guess the monkey goes restless from staying in the cage and must
look for different outlets like masturbation or xanax.

I bet going out in this beautiful Sunday morning would be a great way
to "burn the calories," but it's a jungle out there. Christians get in
their cars, go to church and then go shopping.

And I'll get in my hammock.

[Rod Speed]

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Derek C

Post by a real cheapskate
Frankly I HOPE BP GOES BANKRUPT!
Companies who put profit over safety endager everyone!
So assume BP goes bankrupt their substantial assets would be sold
off, paying all claims for damages.
the stock holders would loose big time, such is one of the risks of
stocks.
the name BP would disappear, current BP management would be out of
work.
the franchise BP stations would be sold and rebranded into other
names, the assets would continue in operation by other hopefully
safer companies.
the death of BP is critical to everyones safety!
other companies will take notice and decide safety must be above
profit.
if this fails to occur the next disaster might be a nuke power
company who puts profit over safety, and turns a big chunk of our
country into a death zone where no one can live for a 100,000 years
while raising the worlds cancer rate.
or a bio engineering company that accidently releases a artifical
life form, killing millions, with the potential to wipe out humans
on earth......
BP needs to die for everyones safety!!

The death of BP (BRITISH Petroleum) would just allow the big US
companies to take over the same markets, to the great detriment of
the UK economy. Do you really want that?
Derek C

Yes, then the UK will turn its attention to other sources of energy.
Germany has done it... why not you?
It's like I say, "Germany lost the war and won the peace."

And Japan didnt. It never did see say an employed engineer end up
with the same real living standards that one in the US ended up with.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
"The share of electricity from renewable energy in Germany has
increased from 6.3 percent in 2000 to about 16.1 percent in 2009.

And the result of that is MUCH higher electricity costs for german consumers and industry.

The french approach makes a hell of a lot more sense,
they generate 90% of their electricity using nukes.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
More than 9 billion euros (US$11.31 billion) was invested in new
renewable energy installations in Germany in 2006. Some 214,000
people in Germany were employed in the renewable energy sector
in 2006, especially in small and medium sized companies. Over half
of these jobs are attributed to the Renewable Energy Sources Act."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_Germany

Pity about the prices that consumers and industry pays for electricity.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Rod Speed
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Derek C

Post by a real cheapskate
Frankly I HOPE BP GOES BANKRUPT!
Companies who put profit over safety endager everyone!
So assume BP goes bankrupt their substantial assets would be sold
off, paying all claims for damages.
the stock holders would loose big time, such is one of the risks of
stocks.
the name BP would disappear, current BP management would be out of
work.
the franchise BP stations would be sold and rebranded into other
names, the assets would continue in operation by other hopefully
safer companies.
the death of BP is critical to everyones safety!
other companies will take notice and decide safety must be above
profit.
if this fails to occur the next disaster might be a nuke power
company who puts profit over safety, and turns a big chunk of our
country into a death zone where no one can live for a 100,000 years
while raising the worlds cancer rate.
or a bio engineering company that accidently releases a artifical
life form, killing millions, with the potential to wipe out humans
on earth......
BP needs to die for everyones safety!!

The death of BP (BRITISH Petroleum) would just allow the big US
companies to take over the same markets, to the great detriment of
the UK economy. Do you really want that?
Derek C

Yes, then the UK will turn its attention to other sources of energy.
Germany has done it... why not you?
It's like I say, "Germany lost the war and won the peace."

And Japan didnt. It never did see say an employed engineer end up
with the same real living standards that one in the US ended up with.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
"The share of electricity from renewable energy in Germany has
increased from 6.3 percent in 2000 to about 16.1 percent in 2009.

And the result of that is MUCH higher electricity costs for german consumers and industry.
The french approach makes a hell of a lot more sense,
they generate 90% of their electricity using nukes.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
More than 9 billion euros (US$11.31 billion) was invested in new
renewable energy installations in Germany in 2006. Some 214,000
people in Germany were employed in the renewable energy sector
in 2006, especially in small and medium sized companies. Over half
of these jobs are attributed to the Renewable Energy Sources Act."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_Germany

Pity about the prices that consumers and industry pays for electricity.

If higher energy costs encourage savings, then it would in a welcome
outcome.

Conversely, our low prices promote the SUVs and all the waste out
there.

[Rod Speed]

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Rod Speed
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Derek C

Post by a real cheapskate
Frankly I HOPE BP GOES BANKRUPT!
Companies who put profit over safety endager everyone!
So assume BP goes bankrupt their substantial assets would be sold
off, paying all claims for damages.
the stock holders would loose big time, such is one of the risks
of stocks.
the name BP would disappear, current BP management would be out of
work.
the franchise BP stations would be sold and rebranded into other
names, the assets would continue in operation by other hopefully
safer companies.
the death of BP is critical to everyones safety!
other companies will take notice and decide safety must be above
profit.
if this fails to occur the next disaster might be a nuke power
company who puts profit over safety, and turns a big chunk of our
country into a death zone where no one can live for a 100,000
years while raising the worlds cancer rate.
or a bio engineering company that accidently releases a artifical
life form, killing millions, with the potential to wipe out humans
on earth......
BP needs to die for everyones safety!!

The death of BP (BRITISH Petroleum) would just allow the big US
companies to take over the same markets, to the great detriment of
the UK economy. Do you really want that?
Derek C

Yes, then the UK will turn its attention to other sources of energy.
Germany has done it... why not you?
It's like I say, "Germany lost the war and won the peace."

And Japan didnt. It never did see say an employed engineer end up
with the same real living standards that one in the US ended up with.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
"The share of electricity from renewable energy in Germany has
increased from 6.3 percent in 2000 to about 16.1 percent in 2009.

And the result of that is MUCH higher electricity costs for german
consumers and industry.
The french approach makes a hell of a lot more sense,
they generate 90% of their electricity using nukes.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
More than 9 billion euros (US$11.31 billion) was invested in new
renewable energy installations in Germany in 2006. Some 214,000
people in Germany were employed in the renewable energy sector
in 2006, especially in small and medium sized companies. Over half
of these jobs are attributed to the Renewable Energy Sources Act."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_Germany

Pity about the prices that consumers and industry pays for electricity.

If higher energy costs encourage savings,

They dont. They in fact REDUCE savings because those higher energy costs have to be incurred.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
then it would in a welcome outcome.

Nope, that would fuck the economy, stupid.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Conversely, our low prices promote the SUVs and all the waste out there.

Wrong with ELECTRICITY prices.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

OK, let's be honest, the CAMPAIGN BIKE FOR PEACE is not going to cut
it. More people masturbate than ride a bike, perhaps because it's
safer. So this other campaign is becoming very popular...

You know, I just named the official song of the campaign:

***OFFICIAL SONG OF THE CAMPAIGN: LIBERTANGO***

POWERFUL, LIBERATING, SEXY...

***

Other liberating campaigns are also growing fast. I hope you enjoyed
the music.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

OK, let's be honest, the CAMPAIGN BIKE FOR PEACE is not going to cut
it. More people masturbate than ride a bike, perhaps because it's
safer. So this other campaign is becoming very popular...

You know, I just named the official song of the campaign:

***OFFICIAL SONG OF THE CAMPAIGN: LIBERTANGO***

POWERFUL, LIBERATING, SEXY...

http://youtu.be/nRu_X-6LLaM

***

Other liberating campaigns are also growing fast. I hope you enjoyed
the music.

http://webspawner.com/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by a real cheapskate
Frankly I HOPE BP GOES BANKRUPT!
Companies who put profit over safety endager everyone!
So assume BP goes bankrupt their substantial assets would be sold off,
paying all claims for damages.
the stock holders would loose big time, such is one of the risks of
stocks.
the name BP would disappear, current BP management would be out of
work.
the franchise BP stations would be sold and rebranded into other
names, the assets would continue in operation by other hopefully safer
companies.
the death of BP is critical to everyones safety!
other companies will take notice and decide safety must be above
profit.
if this fails to occur the next disaster might be a nuke power company
who puts profit over safety, and turns a big chunk of our country into
a death zone where no one can live for a 100,000 years while raising
the worlds cancer rate.
or a bio engineering company that accidently releases a artifical life
form, killing millions, with the potential to wipe out humans on
earth......
BP needs to die for everyones safety!!

Let BP go the way of the dinosaurs. Too big, too stupid... too bad.

[Rod Speed]

Post by a real cheapskate
Frankly I HOPE BP GOES BANKRUPT!

More fool you.

Post by a real cheapskate
Companies who put profit over safety endager everyone!

Nope, doesnt endanger anyone in the US mid west for example.

Post by a real cheapskate
So assume BP goes bankrupt their substantial assets
would be sold off, paying all claims for damages.

A lot more money is available from their ongoing cash flow.

Post by a real cheapskate
the stock holders would loose big time, such is one of the risks of stocks.
the name BP would disappear, current BP management would be out of work.

They'd just work for one of the other operations that took over the assets.

Post by a real cheapskate
the franchise BP stations would be sold and rebranded into other names,

Nope, just rebranded with other names.

Post by a real cheapskate
the assets would continue in operation by other hopefully safer companies.

No evidence that any of the others do things any safer.

Post by a real cheapskate
the death of BP is critical to everyones safety!

Pure fantasy.

Post by a real cheapskate
other companies will take notice and decide safety must be above profit.

Pure fantasy. They have already noticed that using proper blowout protection
avoids the immense cost of a cleanup when the shit hits the fan.

Post by a real cheapskate
if this fails to occur the next disaster might be a nuke power company
who puts profit over safety, and turns a big chunk of our country into
a death zone where no one can live for a 100,000 years while raising
the worlds cancer rate.

That didnt even happen with Chernobyl.

Post by a real cheapskate
or a bio engineering company that accidently releases a artifical life
form, killing millions, with the potential to wipe out humans on earth......

Another silly little fantasy.

Post by a real cheapskate
BP needs to die for everyones safety!!

Another silly little pig ignorant fantasy.

[a real cheapskate]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by a real cheapskate
Frankly I HOPE BP GOES BANKRUPT!

More fool you.

Post by a real cheapskate
Companies who put profit over safety endager everyone!

Nope, doesnt endanger anyone in the US mid west for example.

Post by a real cheapskate
So assume BP goes bankrupt their substantial assets
would be sold off, paying all claims for damages.

A lot more money is available from their ongoing cash flow.

Post by a real cheapskate
the stock holders would loose big time, such is one of the risks of stocks.
the name BP would disappear, current BP management would be out of work.

They'd just work for one of the other operations that took over the assets.

Post by a real cheapskate
the franchise BP stations would be sold and rebranded into other names,

Nope, just rebranded with other names.

Post by a real cheapskate
the assets would continue in operation by other hopefully safer companies.

No evidence that any of the others do things any safer.

Post by a real cheapskate
the death of BP is critical to everyones safety!

Pure fantasy.

Post by a real cheapskate
other companies will take notice and decide safety must be above profit.

Pure fantasy. They have already noticed that using proper blowout protection
avoids the immense cost of a cleanup when the shit hits the fan.

Post by a real cheapskate
if this fails to occur the next disaster might be a nuke power company
who puts profit over safety, and turns a big chunk of our country into
a death zone where no one can live for a 100,000 years while raising
the worlds cancer rate.

That didnt even happen with Chernobyl.

Post by a real cheapskate
or a bio engineering company that accidently releases a artifical life
form, killing millions, with the potential to wipe out humans on earth......

Another silly little fantasy.

Post by a real cheapskate
BP needs to die for everyones safety!!

Another silly little pig ignorant fantasy.

I gather you arent aware of the large dead zone around chernobyl?
thousands of communities abandoned, left to rot or torn down. People
were forced out.

Too dangerous for humans the cancer risk is too high.

And every NUKE plant in the US runs that same risk if the terrorists
bomb or find a way to interrupt cooling water to the waste core
storage pools. They arent in hardened buildings just metal ones....

not resistant to terrorists attacks

[Rod Speed]

Post by a real cheapskate

Post by Rod Speed

Post by a real cheapskate
Frankly I HOPE BP GOES BANKRUPT!

More fool you.

Post by a real cheapskate
Companies who put profit over safety endager everyone!

Nope, doesnt endanger anyone in the US mid west for example.

Post by a real cheapskate
So assume BP goes bankrupt their substantial assets
would be sold off, paying all claims for damages.

A lot more money is available from their ongoing cash flow.

Post by a real cheapskate
the stock holders would loose big time, such is one of the risks of stocks.
the name BP would disappear, current BP management would be out of work.

They'd just work for one of the other operations that took over the assets.

Post by a real cheapskate
the franchise BP stations would be sold and rebranded into other names,

Nope, just rebranded with other names.

Post by a real cheapskate
the assets would continue in operation by other hopefully safer companies.

No evidence that any of the others do things any safer.

Post by a real cheapskate
the death of BP is critical to everyones safety!

Pure fantasy.

Post by a real cheapskate
other companies will take notice and decide safety must be above profit.

Pure fantasy. They have already noticed that using proper blowout protection
avoids the immense cost of a cleanup when the shit hits the fan.

Post by a real cheapskate
if this fails to occur the next disaster might be a nuke power company
who puts profit over safety, and turns a big chunk of our country into
a death zone where no one can live for a 100,000 years while raising
the worlds cancer rate.

That didnt even happen with Chernobyl.

Post by a real cheapskate
or a bio engineering company that accidently releases a artifical life
form, killing millions, with the potential to wipe out humans on earth......

Another silly little fantasy.

Post by a real cheapskate
BP needs to die for everyones safety!!

Another silly little pig ignorant fantasy.

I gather you arent aware of the large dead zone around chernobyl?

Taint one anymore.

Post by a real cheapskate
thousands of communities abandoned, left to rot or torn down.

Complete pack of pig ignorant lies.

Post by a real cheapskate
People were forced out.

Only temporarily.

Post by a real cheapskate
Too dangerous for humans the cancer risk is too high.

Another pig ignorant lie.

Post by a real cheapskate
And every NUKE plant in the US runs that same risk if the terrorists bomb

Wrong, as always. Perfectly possible to ensure that the nuke shuts down
properly if the authoritys are stupid enough to let a bomb get anywhere near it.

Post by a real cheapskate
or find a way to interrupt cooling water to the waste core storage pools.

ALL nukes are designed to shut down when the cooling water fails etc.

Post by a real cheapskate
They arent in hardened buildings just metal ones....

Wrong, as always.

Post by a real cheapskate
not resistant to terrorists attacks

Wrong, as always.

[Bill Sornson]

Worthwhile reading from..."Rolling Stone"?!?:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965?RS_show_page=0

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Jim A
On 06/12/2010 01:49 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Remember this: "WE NEED THE SPACE TO LIVE!"

Don't play The Scarcity Game.
More to the point, everyone knows we owe China&  Japan
oodles of money to pay for Hussein Obama's little private wars...

I thought he inherited those hot potatoes, I mean hot spots.
Anyway, shouldn't we give up such Quixotic enterprises and start nation building here?

Slick tried that approach and the US ended up with 9/11.

Better security would be a much wiser investment.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Imagine we had so many resources to do something really grandiose here.

It aint about resources.

Oh no, Obama won't accomplish much because of the lack of it. And
whatever he got... goes into the Black Hole of Bureaucracy.

Shouldn't that be the "African American" Hole of Bureaucracy?
IGMC ...
--www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride

Not really. The old bureaucracy is still in place.

Revolutions are not complete until the old bureaucracy are replaced
with new ones.

Well, my revolution would never be something like that. Go ahead and
TAKE THE LANE, no stupid bike facilities to feed the contractors.

We will replace Jesus too with a new god...

(another requirement for true revolutions)

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[Rod Speed]

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Remember this: "WE NEED THE SPACE TO LIVE!"

Don't play The Scarcity Game.
More to the point, everyone knows we owe China & Japan
oodles of money to pay for Hussein Obama's little private wars...

I thought he inherited those hot potatoes, I mean hot spots.
Anyway, shouldn't we give up such Quixotic enterprises and start nation building here?

Slick tried that approach and the US ended up with 9/11.

Better security would be a much wiser investment.

Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that claim.

The fucking over of the Talibums from the air eliminated the terrorist
training camps in Afghanistan. There was no point in having thousands
of troops on the ground there to try to get democracy established
when those clowns cant even manage a viable election etc.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock

Post by Rod Speed

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
Imagine we had so many resources to do something really grandiose here.

It aint about resources.

Oh no, Obama won't accomplish much because of the lack of it.

He did continue the approach that ensured that america didnt get another great depression or worse.

It will be interesting to see if your beloved leader produces one on that soggy little island of yours
with savage cuts to govt spending. Thats what produced the great depression the last time.

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
And whatever he got... goes into the Black Hole of Bureaucracy.

Wrong, as always.

[Edward Dolan]

Post by Bill Sornson

Post by Derek C
I
think that Messrs. Bush, Blair and Brown (why do they all have
surnames that start with a B?) have a lot to answer for.

BP gave more money to Obama than any other politician.
Obama gave the doomed BP oil rig a SAFETY AWARD two weeks before it blew up.
Obama waived inspections and regulation enforcement of many deep-water
gulf oil rigs, including Horizon.
Obama waited nine full days to say a single public word about the spill.
Obama's chief of staff Rahm Emanuel (middle name "Israel" in an ironic,
self-hating twist) lived rent-free in a BP lobbyist's DC townhouse. (You
know, those lobbyists Obama pledged would be eliminated from his admin.)
Can you imagine if Carl Freaking Rove had had an arrangement like that?
Wonder if he paid taxes on that little deal.
Obama appointed an incompetent (read: corrupt) crony to head the MMS, then
fired her. When asked about it, the Man In Charge From Day One knew
nothing about it.
But it's all Bush's fault.
Got it.

Bill Sornson has got his facts straight and knows how to get to the point.
If only there were others on these newsgroups who had even half his
intelligence. But instead we are stuck with liberal ideologues who frankly
do not know their asses from a hole in the ground. Embrace an ideology and
become an idiot. That is about the only thing these newsgroups teach us.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

[Jim A]

Post by Derek C
And benefit scroungers, including me unfortunately, as I was made
redundant from my private sector job last year and even the most
menial job has about 100 applicants for it. I have only managed to do
a few weeks' temping work so far. And it's likely to get much worse! I
think that Messrs. Bush, Blair and Brown (why do they all have
surnames that start with a B?) have a lot to answer for.

I was lucky last time I had no permie job I managed to get temp work
most weeks but it was mostly menial and sometimes downright unpleasant.
I remember the feeling well when the work dried up for a few weeks so
you have my every sympathy.

In fact I got my current permie job back in IT by applying for an
internal vacancy I noticed on the board at a warehouse I was picking in
at the time. That certainly got me fit what with riding the Moulton APB
I had at the time to & from the warehouse too.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Derek C

Post by Jim A
On 06/11/2010 01:08 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I was hearing in the news today how worried the British government
is about BP losing ground and the investors not getting their
returns... That would be the End of the World as we know it, right?
http://www.bp.com/investorhome.do?categoryId=132&contentId=2004195
What's next, America taking over?

They were saying in the news yesterday that (iirc) the US owns about
40% of the shares in BP. If BP is going down, we're taking you with
us!

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I like what they have to say here...
"That trampoline is less secure than a job in? a British industry."

British Industry? What's that? We've turned in to a nation of bankers
and aromatherapists.

And benefit scroungers, including me unfortunately, as I was made
redundant from my private sector job last year and even the most
menial job has about 100 applicants for it. I have only managed to do
a few weeks' temping work so far. And it's likely to get much worse! I
think that Messrs. Bush, Blair and Brown (why do they all have
surnames that start with a B?)

Because a lot more surnames start with B than other letters.

Post by Derek C
have a lot to answer for.

Nope, its never down to the prez etc, regardless of how many are that mindlessly simplistic.

Its congress and parliament that was stupid enough to not have adequate regulation of the banks etc.

Not one of the australian or canadian banks imploded spectacularly, or even needed to be bailed out by govt.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock]

Post by Jim A
On 06/11/2010 01:08 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I was hearing in the news today how worried the British government is
about BP losing ground and the investors not getting their returns...
That would be the End of the World as we know it, right?
http://www.bp.com/investorhome.do?categoryId=132&contentId=2004195
What's next, America taking over?

They were saying in the news yesterday that (iirc) the US owns about 40%
of the shares in BP.  If BP is going down, we're taking you with us!

Were you listening to the same news? The World...

http://theworld.org

Post by Jim A

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
I like what they have to say here...
"That trampoline is less secure than a job in a British industry."

British Industry?  What's that?  We've turned in to a nation of bankers
and aromatherapists.
--www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride

But I think Big Oil are the dinosaurs refusing to change.

How can I invest in aromatherapy? That's the future, together with
water, banana and hammocks...